Believe it or... Not! The Choice is Yours! But, Be Aware of What the Bible Says! Then, Choose!

According to the Bible there are "Three World Ages"
Peter told us that there are three heaven and earth ages:
1) The world that then was, which perished, Verse 6
2) the heaven and earth which is now,  Verse 7 and
3) the new heaven and new earth age to come. Verse 13
2 Peter 3:5-6, 7, & 13[5] For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the Word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water [6] Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: [7] But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. [13] Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Paul was taken to the third heaven:
2 Corinthians 12:1  It is not expedient for me doubtless, to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord.
2  I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
3  And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;)
In Ephesians 1 Paul talks about the First and Second earth ages:
Prior, the first, earth age - we/us chosen and predestinated before the foundation in the first earth age.
Scripture:   Ephesians 1:3  Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4  According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5  Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
6  To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
7  In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
8  Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;
9  Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
10  That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
11  In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
12  That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
This, the second, earth age - ye believed and sealed in this second earth age.
13  In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,


For more study on "3 earth and heaven ages" Log unto the following:
#5119   Is the earth only 6,000 years old as many Christian's have been led to believe by "willingly ignorant" ministers and teachers of God's word?
#4008 What's This Business About a Third Heaven?
#4083   I used to think that when Paul was taken to a third heaven it meant he was taken to one which was three times better then the current heaven. How wrong I was!
#4088   Worlds (plural), means there have been and will be more then one!
#1003Is There a Conflict Between Science and the Bible?
#1087  "Find and Fill in the Gaps"


According to the Bible we all existed as spirit beings in heaven before being born here on earth in these "Flesh and Blood bodies" but we must go back after this flesh life ends.
Jesus is telling Nicodemus that a flesh and blood man must be born back into the spirit to see the kingdom of God.
John 3:1  There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2  The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3  Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4  Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5  Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water (flesh) and of the Spirit (back to spirit), he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6  That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7  Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8  The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
9  Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
10  Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
American Wisdom Series note: Allow us to try to make this clearer in your mind. When you repent of your sins and invite Jesus Christ into your heart, you, at that moment, receive a spiritual rebirth of your soul (You receive a new nature). You now have life eternal, but still being alive in the flesh you are still living in your terrestrial body. You also, still have your old nature, and may still sin from time to time. (For that reason you should confess that sin and ask forgiveness for that sin in Jesus name.)

Now when Christ returns all of us who are still alive and living in terrestrial bodies (both the saved and the unsaved will instantly be changed (reborn) back into our celestial bodies, very similar to the body we had in the first earth age.

If you were saved and granted eternal life (the first resurrection), you may still need some work done during the Millennium to make you perfect.

If you were one who entered the Millennium, unsaved, you have now "become a real piece of work", (This is the real reason for the Christ's Millennial kingdom!) After 1000 years of teaching and discipline, Satan will again be released from the pit to test you for a short while, after which you be will judged by your works and may, also be granted eternal life (The second resurrection), but by works, not by grace, although it will still be because of Christ's shed blood on the cross.
11  Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
John 3:11  Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12  If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
13  And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
In verse 13 Jesus is saying that, just like He Himself who lived/lives in heaven in His spirit body, came to earth born to Mary then, after His flesh life ends, go back into His spirit body to heaven (which He did after His crucifixion), so must we, after having lived with God in heaven in our spirit bodies, came down to earth born of a flesh and blood woman, again after our earthly death return to our spirit bodies. We do this in order to reenter the kingdom of God.
Note: This is not talking about being begotten by the Holy Spirit. Of course you must be begotten by the Holy Spirit to be saved. Some like to call that begettal being "born again". Call it what you like but that is not what is being discussed here.

Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Ephes. 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Isaiah 14:12  How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Genesis 1:28  And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Natural bodies sown/Spiritual bodies raised
1 Corinthians 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body
1 Corinthians 15:51  Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
When?   At the 7th/last trump!
1 Corinthians 15:52  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Before we were put into our flesh bodies
Job 38:7  When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Since we've been put into our flesh bodies
Genesis 6:1  And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3  And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4  There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.



For more study on our lives before and after this "time Spent in Flesh and blood body" Log unto the following:
#4000     Natural body, Spiritual body, Celestial body, Terrestrial body, Corruptible body, Incorruptible body, Mortality, Immortality - What does it all mean?
#1503Did you use your eyes to see and understand what Jesus just taught
The pre-Adamic World
#4174Before we were put into our flesh bodies,
#4201We were created before the earth existed.
#4055We were all created as spirit beings long before the foundation of the world!
#4017   When our flesh (natural) body dies we are all given spiritual bodies.
#4172We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed
#4241God a spirit being, in the beginning, created us, also as spirit beings.. Later we, according to his plan are, in our turn, born in the flesh and he as Jesus was also born in the flesh and dwelt among us for a time.
#4081  Three are one in heaven and three agree in one on earth.


According to the Bible history there were "Two Different Destructive Floods"

After Flood #1                                 After Flood #2
[Lucifer's Flood]                             [Noah's Flood}
Earth made waste                                               Not made waste
(Gen.1:2; Jer. 4:23)                                                    (Gen.8:11-12, 22)
Earth made empty                                              Not made empty
(Gen.1:2; Jer. 4:23)                                                    (Gen.6:17-22; 8:16)
Earth made totally dark                                     Not made dark
(Gen.1-2; Jer. 4:23)                                                    (Gen.8:6-22)
No light from heaven                                         Light from heaven
(Gen. 1:2: Jer. 4:23)                                                   (Gen. 8:6-22)
No days                                                               Days
(Gen.1:2-5)                                                               (Gen. 8:1-22)
All vegetation destroyed                                 Vegetation not destroyed
(Gen. 1:2-12; Jer.4:23-26)                                           (Gen.8:11-12, 22)
God rebuked the waters and                            Waters gradually receded
they hastened away in 1 day                           away over a period of months
(Gen.1-12; Ps.104:7)                                                  (Gen.8:1-14)
All fish destroyed                                              Fish were not destroyed
(Gen.1:2, 20-23; Jer.4:23-26)                                       (Gen.6:18-8:22)
No foul were left                                                 Foul did not disappear
Gen.1:20;Jer.4:23-26)                                                 (Gen.6:20; 8:17)
No animals left                                                   Animals were saved
(Gen.1:24-25; 2:19)                                                    (Gen.6:20; 8:17)
No men left on earth                                          Men were saved (8 eighth day men
(Gen.1:26-28; Jer.4:23-26)                                          and probably alot of sixth day men)
                                                                              (Gen.6:18)
No social system left                                          Social system was preserved
(2 Pet.3:6; Jer.4:23-26)                                                (Gen.6:18; 8:22; 2 Pet.2:5)
Caused by fall of Satan (Isa.14:12-14;                 Caused by wickedness of man  (Gen.6:5-13)
Jer.4:23-26; Ezek.28:11-17; Lk. 10-18)                         + and fallen angels (Gen.6:1-4)
Became necessary to re-create                       All things preserved
(Gen.1:3-2:25)                                                           (Gen.6:18-8:22)
 

After Flood #1
Gen. 1:2 says the earth was (Heb., hayah, meaning became) without form and void (Heb., tohu va bola, meaning, waste and empty) and darkness was (became) upon the face of the deep (flooded). 2 Peter 3:6 says the earth was (became) overflowed with water and perished.

If we look at Jeremiah's vision of the earth (Jer. 4:23-26) it was without form and void; and had no light and the mountains trembled and the hills moved. And there were no men and all the birds were gone. He said the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities were broken down because of the Lord's anger. He must have seen the earth as it is described in Gen. 1:2 and as Peter described it in 2 Peter 3:6 because the earth has never been empty and waste and dark since the six days of God's activity as described in Gen. 1:3 to 2:25. The only time the sun and stars were not allowed to give light was the period before the six days. They have been giving light ever since. There never has been a time or will be a time when there were no men on earth since then. Yet Jeremiah said all the cities were gone.

Jeremiah 4:23  I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
24  I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
25  I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
26  I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.

After Flood #2
Genesis 8:1  And God remembered Noah, and every living thing, and all the cattle that was with him in the ark: and God made a wind to pass over the earth, and the waters asswaged;
2  The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained;
3  And the waters returned from off the earth continually: and after the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters were abated.
4  And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.
5  And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.
6  And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made:
7  And he sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth.
8  Also he sent forth a dove from him, to see if the waters were abated from off the face of the ground;
9  But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth: then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark.
10  And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark;
11  And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth.
12  And he stayed yet other seven days; and sent forth the dove; which returned not again unto him any more.
13  And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year, in the first month, the first day of the month, the waters were dried up from off the earth: and Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked, and, behold, the face of the ground was dry.
14  And in the second month, on the seven and twentieth day of the month, was the earth dried.

Further evidence:
The Translators say Cain was driven from earth toearth???
This is a bad translation that came about only because the of translators preconceived idea that it was Noah's flood rather then Lucifer's flood that was universal! When the translators called it earth in Genesis chapter 6 verse 7 rather then land they really confused the issue; same as here in verse 14 of chapter 4
Genesis 4:13  And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Genesis 4:14  Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
Driven from the face of the earth; to be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth. I don't think so!



For more study on "the two different destructive floods" Log unto the following:
#1003   Is There a Conflict Between Science and the Bible?
#6240   Noah's Flood was not universal!
#6246The whole eretz{land not earth}
#4167God Angels impregnating our daughters.
#4191    Destroyed the first earth and also the first heaven.
#4019   Cain driven from earth to earth??? This must be a bad translation!
#4099   God did not create the earth in vain as Genesis 1:2 seems to say at first glance!
#4151   The Hebrew words "ad-aw-maw" and eh'-rets are translated "land" more often then "earth" through out much of the Bible. How do you think they should have been translated in chapter 4 verse 14 in Genesis?
 #6123God destroyed the first earth age and reformatted the globe and decreed that all His children come down from above and be born "innocence" of woman... innocent meaning they would have no firsthand knowledge of that first earth age.


According to the Bible "Lucifer/Satan was once a Priest"
This means that Satan wore the "Breastplate of a Priest of God",
Ezekiel 28:11  Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
12  Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13  Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14  Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
15  Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
16  By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
17  Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
18  Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
19  All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.
Only priests wear precious stone breastplates!


For more study on "Lucifer/Satan was once a priest" Log unto the following:
#8028Lucifer/Satan was once, in the first earth age, a high priest, but he wanted to be king, even the King of kings, and so he EXALTED HIMSELF above the other "princes" (stars) in that First Earth Age.


According to the Bible "We Flesh and Blood Humans and the Angels are Brothers"
John was told that we are by one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues
Revelation 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife

Revelation 22:8  And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
9  Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

Matthew 18:10  Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven

Even the Lord's angel was He himself; only as a spirit being, not a flesh and blood man.
Genesis 22:15  And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time,
16  And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:
17  That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;



For more study on "We and Angels are Brothers" Log unto the following:
#1920The angel makes it perfectly clear that he is "one of us" who has lived in the flesh,
#1035"The Angel Is One of Us!!!!"
#4001Dear Suzie, Please don't reject something which is documented in the Bible just because you never heard it before!
#4023    This verse proves that the Angel of the Lord is God Himself; therefore, does it not stand to reason that our angels are us in our spiritual being who are also, right now, beholding the face of our Father which is in heaven?
#4139    We all have an angel in heaven right now; he is us!
#2543Please know that If you ARE part of the kingdom of heaven, that His kingdom is NOT of this world..
#4179   "The man Gabriel!"  but, I thought Gabriel is an angel!  He is, an angel in the spirit dimension; a man in this dimension. So are we!
#4164   These sons of God, i.e. angels, i.e. our brothers, didn't wait their turn to be born in the flesh and came to earth impregnating daughters of flesh and blood men.



According to the Bible the Lord travels by space ship:
How would you have described a space ship or even a jet plane if you had seen one 2500 years ago?
Here is how Ezekiel gave it his best shot when he saw them in a vision!
Ezekiel 1:4  And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
Here's more of what Ezekiel saw.
5  Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.
Keep in mind that Ezekiel sees both these shiny space craft vehicles with the four emblems of the four faces, i.e. the standards of Israel, painted or perhaps carved on them (as all aircraft have, like the Presidential Seal is on Air Force One), and the Zoon that are INSIDE the vehicles as verses 20-21 document.
6  And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings.
Since these vehicles are circular, like saucers, these four faces would be emblazoned on them exactly as the standards of the encampment of Israel in their North, South, East, and West positions with, as verse 10 will show, the Lion on the right side!
7  And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf's foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass.
If you lived 2500 years ago and had never seen a flying machine of any kind, how would you describe tripod style landing gear? Think of the Eagle that landed on the moon and its landing pods, like the sole of a calf's foot, at the end of the un-jointed gear (straight feet). The landing gear on these vehicles didn't have wheels because they did not need to roll down a runway to lift off, for they used a technology for propulsion that man hasn't discovered yet.
This incredible sight must have blown Ezekiel's mind!
8  And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings.
Ezekiel is still describing the vehicle's structure and decals, or emblems.
9  Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward.
This was amazing to Ezekiel. These vehicles not only flew in perfect formation, like the Blue Angels, with their wings tips together, but they always faced forward no matter which direction they went. A helicopter can pretty much do that, but there is nothing in the universe as fast and mobile as these highly polished bronze vehicles that Ezekiel saw!
The next verse gives the same exact description of the four faces as we read about in Rev. chapter 4 concerning the Zoon, the four Cherubim Guards at the throne of God. They are the same faces as the N, S, E, W standards (emblems or banners) of God's nation of Israel in Numbers 2. There is nothing strange about this at all.
10  As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.
11  Thus were their faces: and their wings were stretched upward; two wings of every one were joined one to another, and two covered their bodies.
12  And they went every one straight forward: whither the spirit was to go, they went; and they turned not when they went.
This really does not take much of an imagination for 21st century mankind, especially for the generation that grew up with Star Trek and the U.S.S. Enterprise.
How would a person 2500 years ago describe energy cells, beacons, flashing laser beams, etc.? How about just something as simple as the colored lights on top of a police cruiser?
13  As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps: it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning.
Remember, the pilots of these "Flying Wheels" are the four Zoon and wherever they go there is an intense brightness.
14  And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightning.
That about describes how fast UFOs go, according to those who claim to have seen them. Ezekiel says they are as fast as a flash of lighting. When the Zoon go Zoooom, they're gone!
15  Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces
."As I stared at all of this, I saw four wheels on the ground beneath them, one wheel belonging to each." (Living Bible)
Ezekiel calls these circular flying discs, wheels. I mean, what other terminology could he use. I suppose he could have called them flying pancakes. But the words "flying saucer" would not be coined until the generation that was able to understand what he saw was born. You see, these "wheels" were not rolling vertically like those on a chariot. They were horizontal, which we will see in vs. 17.
16  The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.
The four wheels all had the same appearance like sparkling chrysolite and interspaced with the wheel in the middle, where the throne of God is and He who sits on it, both of which we will read about in our next study.
17  When they went, they went upon their four sides: and they turned not when they went.
These "wheels" did not go like the wheels Ezekiel was used to seeing roll alongside his cart. They were horizontal, on their sides, and when they flew they didn't even turn or spin. They just went!
18  As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four.
The word "dreadful" is better translated "awesome" for us today! These circular vehicles had windows around them that Ezekiel could see into, and there were living creatures inside (vs. 20)!
19  And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.
This is no big deal to us. When the plane takes off, all those we see through the port holes go up too! But imagine Ezekiel seeing this 2500 years ago! How awesome indeed it must have been. It isn't written but I'll bet it "knocked his socks off"! (Don't you just love figures of speech?)
20  Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.
The living creature, the Zoon, was in the vehicle and Ezekiel could see him!
21  When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.
He just couldn't get over this, could he? Shiny spectrum metal wheels with living beings inside that just take off into the sky, with the beings inside, and whiz around and land at will. Unbelievable, to him.
22  And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above
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2 Kings 2:1 And it came to pass, when the LORD would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal.
This word "whirlwind" is the EXACT same Hebrew word "caar" that Ezekiel saw coming toward him from out of the north. You can read the entire account in 2 Kings, so let's skip to verse 9:[9] And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And Elisha said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me. [10] And he said, Thou hast asked a hard thing: nevertheless, if thou see me when I am taken from thee, it shall be so unto thee; but if not, it shall not be so.[11] And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
Elisha sees Elijah taken up in a "whirlwind".

Ezekiel 10:1  Then I looked, and, behold, in the firmament that was above the head of the cherubims there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone, as the appearance of the likeness of a throne.
What an awesome sight it must have been to see the very throne of God.
2  And he spake unto the man clothed with linen, and said, Go in between the wheels, even under the cherub, and fill thine hand with coals of fire from between the cherubims, and scatter them over the city. And he went in in my sight.
Remember this man of linen from the previous chapter who went about setting a "Tav", a cross, upon the heads of the truly "saved" who were spared the spiritual slaughtering which followed him. So this scattering of "coals of fire" over the city of Jerusalem is symbolic of God's judgment upon the House of Israel, for He is a consuming fire: Hebrews 12:29 "For our God is a consuming fire." And although this scattering of "fire" over the city is specific to the judgment of the house of God, for the elders have failed to teach His Word line by line and chapter by chapter, in Rev. 8 we read of the casting of "fire" from the altar of God over the whole earth at the judgment of the final hour to come upon this generation. Rev.

Rev. 8:1And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. [5] And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thundering, and lightnings, and an earthquake. [6] And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.
Always remember from the graphic example in the Book of Daniel of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, that fire cannot and will not hurt those who serve and love the Lord God.

Ezek. 10:3  Now the cherubims stood on the right side of the house, when the man went in; and the cloud filled the inner court.
The house is the house of God.
4  Then the glory of the LORD went up from the cherub, and stood over the threshold of the house; and the house was filled with the cloud, and the court was full of the brightness of the LORD'S glory.
Have you ever wondered what this was in Exodus 13:21 "And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night:", or have you settled for Cecil B. DeMille's concept in the classic film "The Ten Commandments"?
It might help to look up the word "pillar" in your Strong's Concordance and see that it means "platform".
5  And the sound of the cherubims' wings was heard even to the outer court, as the voice of the Almighty God when he speaketh
.The sound of wings was that of the wings of the wheels as they hovered.
6  And it came to pass, that when he had commanded the man clothed with linen, saying, Take fire from between the wheels, from between the cherubims; then he went in, and stood beside the wheels.
7  And one cherub stretched forth his hand from between the cherubims unto the fire that was between the cherubims, and took thereof, and put it into the hands of him that was clothed with linen: who took it, and went out.
After awhile this Book of Ezekiel isn't so hard to read, is it? (Of course the old English style of the KJV leaves a lot to be desired for English readers today.)
8  And there appeared in the cherubims the form of a man's hand under their wings.
9  And when I looked, behold the four wheels by the cherubims, one wheel by one cherub, and another wheel by another cherub: and the appearance of the wheels was as the colour of a beryl stone.
As we learned in chapter one, the word "colour" is the Hebrew word "ayin", which means "appeared to the eye as" or we could say "looked like". These vehicles were brilliant and shiny like a gem such as a topaz.
10  And as for their appearances, they four had one likeness, as if a wheel had been in the midst of a wheel.
Don't let this be difficult. Just picture these four escort ships in formation below and around the "mother ship". Ezekiel couldn't say it like that because he never saw Star Trek or Star Wars, although what he saw far surpasses any movie you or I have ever seen.
11  When they went, they went upon their four sides; they turned not as they went, but to the place whither the head looked they followed it; they turned not as they went.
The flying wheels were horizontal (on their sides), not vertical like the wheels of a cart. They flew in any direction while the emblems on their wings, like an American Eagle insignia on a jet, and the cherubs inside, faced forward and didn't turn as the vehicles moved any which way they wanted to, kind of like a helicopter can maneuver. This was definitely an unusual sight to a man 2500 years ago.
12  And their whole body, and their backs, and their hands, and their wings, and the wheels, were full of eyes round about, even the wheels that they four had.
They had windows, call them portholes, all around them. That's what "full of eyes" means.
13  As for the wheels, it was cried unto them in my hearing, O wheel.
"O wheel" in Hebrew translates to "Whirl, whirl" or "Whirl-Wheels" as one translation has it. Here's the Hebrew from Strong's:
galgal, gal-gal', Hebrew 1534; by reduplication from Hebrew 1556 (galal); a wheel; by analogy a whirlwind; also dust (as whirled) :- heaven, rolling thing, wheel.
That's right! They were whirling, highly polished, spectrum bronze, flying discs.
14  And every one had four faces: the first face was the face of a cherub, and the second face was the face of a man, and the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle.
Remember, these are the same as the standards, the national emblems, of the encampment of Israel.
Look! The standard of Judah is the lion, the standard of Reuben is a man, the standard of Ephraim is the bull, ox, and the standard of Dan is the eagle.

 
The encampment from the Book of Numbers chapter 2:
                                                          (N)
                                     DAN
                               (Eagle)
 
 

(W)      EPHRAIM                                JUDAH      (E)
          (Taurus)                                   (Lion)
 
 

                                   REUBEN
                                (a Man)

                                      (S)

Note: If you are receiving this study in text format only and aren't receiving the graphics, then turn to Numbers chapter 2 in your Companion Bible and you will see a diagram of the encampment of Israel.
15  And the cherubims were lifted up. This is the living creature that I saw by the river of Chebar.
This is the very same thing Ezekiel saw in chapter 1.
16  And when the cherubims went, the wheels went by them: and when the cherubims lifted up their wings to mount up from the earth, the same wheels also turned not from beside them.
This simply means that the cherubims and the wheels rose up together, obviously because the cherubims were in the vehicles (see chapter 1 and next verse). And when they rose up they raised their landing gear!
17  When they stood, these stood; and when they were lifted up, these lifted up themselves also: for the spirit of the living creature was in them.
They were inside the flying discs (I'm staying away from the phrase "flying saucers" lest people accuse me of being "nuts". They have enough cause already without me heaping coals of fire upon my own head.).
18  Then the glory of the LORD departed from off the threshold of the house, and stood over the cherubims.
Our Father is always situated above for He is the One on high.
19  And the cherubims lifted up their wings, and mounted up from the earth in my sight: when they went out, the wheels also were beside them, and every one stood at the door of the east gate of the LORD'S house; and the glory of the God of Israel was over them above.
They raised their landing gear and they took off! Then they hovered at door of the "east" gate of the temple below the main vehicle before lifting off.
Note: Did you know that if you look out from east gate of the temple you will see the river Kedron and the Mount of Olives?
20  This is the living creature that I saw under the God of Israel by the river of Chebar; and I knew that they were the cherubims.
This is exactly the same thing that Ezekiel saw in chapter 1.
21  Every one had four faces apiece, and every one four wings; and the likeness of the hands of a man was under their wings.
22  And the likeness of their faces was the same faces which I saw by the river of Chebar, their appearances and themselves: they went every one straight forward.
And so Ezekiel, the watchman of God, was privileged to see the Chariot of Israel and the cherubims who piloted it (look up the word "horsemen" in the following verse). This is the same Chariot of Israel that was sent for Elijah (remember he was taken up in a "whirlwind") and Elisha saw it and recognized the insignias of Israel, i.e. the Eagle, the Man, the Ox, and the Lion.
What an exciting time we live in! The watchmen of this generation are being strengthened even as we read this study of His enlightening Word. He has foretold us all things and we thank Him so much for that.
Here's more documentation of God's Space Ships
Elisha this time, instead of Ezekiel
2 Kings 6:17  And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.
Elisha saw Elijah taken up into heaven in a space ship!
2 Kings 2:9  And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And Elisha said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me.
10  And he said, Thou hast asked a hard thing: nevertheless, if thou see me when I am taken from thee, it shall be so unto thee; but if not, it shall not be so.
11  And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.
The "Chariots of Fire" are mentioned pretty often in the Bible; Keep your eyes out for them!
Both in the Bible and outside at night!


For more study on "God's Flying Saucers" Log unto the following:
#8001God visits Ezekiel in his flying machine.
#8010Ezekiel will once again describe in the limited vocabulary of his day the awesome "highly polished spectrum bronze vehicles" that he was privileged.
#4229 Here are "God's Flying Saucers" again!
#4215 He rode upon a cherub, and did fly.
#4155  "God's Space Ship"  Imagine Ezekiel trying to describe some UFOs coming directly toward him.


According to the Bible the creations described in Genesis 1 and 2 are two different happenings:
Chapter 1 verse 3 God starts the process of repairing the earth after its destruction between verses 1 and 2.  In verse 26 God creates flesh and blood mankind of in many different  races; While in Chapter 2 after planting a garden God forms one man for a very specific purpose.

Animals (wild kingdom) first - Men (the races) second!
Genesis 1:24 And God said,Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. [25] And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth [27] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.[28] And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenishthe earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth The earth had been populated in the first earth age, prior to its destruction by these same men but,  in spirit bodies,  not flesh and blood bodies.
[29] And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. [30] And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. [31] And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Genesis 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

I believe mankind (all the different races of people who were created on the sixth day) went forth and replenishing the earth during this seventh day, this millennium of rest. [2] And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. [3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made

Now we come to the eighth day. God will form (not create as in chapter one) a special man to "till the ground" and has placed him in the garden of Eden to dress it and keep it. Why this special creation? Because it would be through this man, 'eth ha Adam, and his soon to be formed wife, Eve, that the Messiah, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, would be born. It was God's plan from the beginning.

Man (specific) first - Animals (domestic) second!
.Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, .[5] And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. [6] But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.  [7] And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. [8] And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. [9] And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. [10] And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads. [11] The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;  [12] And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.  [13] And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia. [14] And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates. [15] And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. [16] And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: [17] But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. [18] And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
This man Adam needed a women who was also not from among the sixth day creation. I believe the spirits placed in this Adam and Eve were spirits of beings who had been proven faithful to God in the first earth age, because it is from this man and women that Christ would be born in the flesh.
Genesis 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. [20] And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. [21] And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; [22] And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. [23] And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. [24] Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. [25] And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

 (Please don't even think that God forgot which he created first when he inspired the writing of chapter two)


For more study on "How God replenished the earth" Log unto the following:
#7003 The Differences between Genesis Chapter 1 and Chapter 2 creation.
#7001    Let's take a fresh look at Genesis Chapters 1 & 2
#7002 The Eighth Day of Creation
#1003 Is There a Conflict Between Science and the Bible?


According to the Bible some angels came to earth and impregnated human women:
Genesis 6:1  And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose
3  And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4  There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6  And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7  And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Angels who left there first estate!
Jude 1:6  And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day
1 Corinthians 11:10  For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
The need to kill off these particular nations completely? Because of the angels!
War against nations made up of normal flesh and blood humans:
Deuteronomy 20:10  When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it.
11  And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee.
12  And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it:
13  And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:
14  But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.
15  Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far off from thee, which are not of the cities of these nations.
War against nations made up of OF OFFSPRING FROM ANGELS WHO LEFT THEIR FIRST ESTATE!
Deuteronomy 20:16  But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
17  But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee:
18  That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the LORD your God.
19  When thou shalt besiege a city a long time, in making war against it to take it, thou shalt not destroy the trees thereof by forcing an axe against them: for thou mayest eat of them, and thou shalt not cut them down (for the tree of the field is man's life) to employ them in the siege:
20  Only the trees which thou knowest that they be not trees for meat, thou shalt destroy and cut them down; and thou shalt build bulwarks against the city that maketh war with thee, until it be subdued.

For more study on "Angels who left there first estate!" Log unto the following:
#4036   These angels left their first estate
#6236 Wait a minute! You just said there's no sex in heaven.
#6237   Yes, there were giants in the earth in those days (Gen 6:4), both before and after the flood.
#6239 Noah was PERFECT in his family history, his generations, his family tree, his pedigree
#6241   Noah was preaching against getting involved with the sons of God, the fallen angels!
#6242   One thing is for sure, all the races, including the sons of Cain (kenites) survived the Flood of Noah.
#6219Let's talk about TREES.
#6220Will you believe Christ or hang on to the apple tree teechings?
#6223    "Remind me sometime and I'll tell you what really happened in the garden".
#4164   These sons of God, i.e. angels, i.e. our brothers, didn't wait their turn to be born in the flesh and came to earth impregnating daughters of flesh and blood men.
#4167Angels impregnating our daughters.
#4187   Noah and the giants!
Noah had no blood from fallen angels in his veins:
"Noah was perfect in his generations" means his blood line wasn't contaminated by the blood of angels who left their first estate. Noah, his wife, his three sons and their wives. The reason for the flood!
Genesis 6:9  These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
This was important so God could introduce a savior into the world who was also pure in his generations. The reason Noah's flood took place when it did is because their were only eight persons left on earth who were "perfect in their generations". Noah, his wife, their three sons and their wives.  The angel's were contaminating the "eight day creation" blood line rapidly


From the Editor: As you have just read in Genesis 6:1-7 and Jude 1:6, ordinary angels came to earth and impregnated our daughters; If you don't now also believe that Satan, while in the garden of Eden, had sex with and impregnated Eve, you've spent too much time in your Sunday school class. A class obviously being taught by a person who has never studied and rightly divided the Word of God; but, instead teaches from a Sunday school quarterly written by people whose greater interest is not teaching unaltered Truth, but instead, maintaining the integrity of the church financial accounts, pay church employees salaries (including their own), and the monthly up keep of the building/buildings and of course, the building fund and many social activities. Please Read Scripture Below1


According to the Bible Eve had sex with Satan in the garden of Eden:
OK, it is now time to "grow-up" and mature in the Word of God.
Genesis 3:6  And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
7  And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
Do you suppose they made little "itty bitty aprons" to cover their mouths because they ate an apple?
2 Cor. 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
Genesis 3:14  And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this,thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
If Eve only ate an apple what did the serpent do to her?
15  And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
16  Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
What does conception and bringing forth children have to do with eating apples ?
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


*For more study on "Eve had sex with Satan in the garden of Eden" Log unto the following:
#4150   If Eve only ate an apple what did the serpent do to her?
#6226   Adam and Eve now needed a covering, because of sin.
#6218   OK, it is now time to "grow-up" and mature in the Word of God.
#6227   Cain and Abel were both Eve's sons, but they both were not Adam's, only Abel was.
#6228Plainand simply, like it or not, believe it or not, Cain was Satan's son, not Adam's.
#4104"Ye are of your father the Devil", Christ said to the Jews. Fellow Christian, are you paying attention!
#6224    Sometimes those who are "street wise" have an advantage in understanding the realities of the flesh man.


According to the Bible drink strong drink is not forbidden!

John 2:1 And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there: [2] And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage. John 2:3 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine. [4] Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come [5] His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it. [6] And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece.John 2:7 Jesus saith unto them, Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim. [8] And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare it. [9] When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew;) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom,[10] And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.
Do you think the governor of the feast thought the new wine, Jesus made, was good grape juice, saved until last?!!!

Acts 2:13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
On the day of Pentecost do you think they thought the Apostles were full of grape juice?!!!

Matthew 11:18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil. [19] The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.
Do you think they thought Jesus drank too much grape juice?!!!

Isaiah 29:9  Stay yourselves, and wonder; cry ye out, and cry: they are drunken, but not with wine; they stagger, but not with strong drink. [10] For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.
Now this is the strong drink you're to stay away from!!!!!!!

Romans 11:7-10 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded. [8] (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day. [9] And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them: [10] Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
How is that we have come to the point where the majority of our people in this final generation are Biblically ignorant?

Now, Hear what Isaiah has to say about it.!!!
Isaiah 29:11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: [12] And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
Hebrews 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. [7] If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Proverbs 3:12 Forwhom the LORD loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.
Isaiah 29:13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
Matthew 15:8-9   This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. [9] But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Isaiah 29:14 Therefore, behold, I  will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.
1 Cor. 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. [19] For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. [20] Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
Hosea 14:9 Who is wise, and he shall understand these things? prudent, and he shall know them? for the ways of the LORD are right, and the just shall walk in them: but the transgressors shall fall therein
Proverbs 14:12, "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death."
You can either believe it... or learn it the hard way!



For more study on "Drinking Strong Drink" Log unto the following:
#4218   The next time someone tells you "new wine" is unfermented grape juice have them explain this verse.
#1502 Chapter 2 Verses 1 thru 10 Jesus turns water into wine
#2524   "For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him." Verses 18 and 19
#6162   The preachers and ministers cannot, for example, understand the simplicity of what happened in the garden of Eden. 29:11 to end
#4067   Drunken but not with strong drink.


According to the Bible new wine is not unfermented grape juice:
The next time someone tells you "new wine" is unfermented grape juice have them explain this verse.
Acts 2:13  Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
Do you think they thought these men were full of grape juice?
#4218   The next time someone tells you "new wine" is unfermented grape juice have them explain this verse.


According to the Bible Jesus preached unto the nations. When? Where?
Was it in Europe prior to his 30th birthday and not recorded in scripture?

1 Timothy 3:16  And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory


.For more study on "Jesus preached to the gentiles" Log unto the following:
#4142   Jesus preached unto nations! When? Where?


According to the Bible the "Rapture Theory" is false:
According to the theory, we Christians are to be raptured out of here before Satan comes: his coming being the period of tribulation.

2 Thessalonians 2:1  Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2  That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4  Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Did I not just read that Christ won't return until after Satan sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself to be God?
But! but! but! Oh my! Oh my! I thought I was to be raptured out of here first!

Matthew 13:29  But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Matthew 13:30  Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Seems like the bad guys are to be gathered up while the saved remain here!
But! but! but! Oh my! Oh my! We Christians will be here throughout the tribulation!

Mark 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not,
Mark 13:21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:
That's what Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4.
But! but! but! Oh my! Oh my! It must be true! Why didn't my preacher tell me this was going to happen!

Matthew 10:21  And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
22  And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake:but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
Does that mean my unsaved relatives are going to convince me Satan is really Jesus?
Oh my! Oh my! But, what if I don't let them convince me that he is Jesus?
Well then, like Jesus said in verse 22, you'll endure to the end!

Matthew 24:36  But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37  But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38  For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40  Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41  Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42  Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43  But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
also: Luke 17:34  I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. 35  Two women shall be grinding together; theone shall be taken, and the other left.36  Two men shall be in the field;the one shall be taken, and the other left.
That's right; In the days of Noah, Angels were coming to earth and marrying daughters of flesh and blood man and Noah's flood washed them all away.  In like manner, during the tribulation, Satan's flood of lies will carry away those who believe he is God; therefore, they won't endure until the end when the real Jesus comes.
Oh my! Oh my! How will I know Satan is not the real Jesus?

1 Corinthians 15:40 There are also celestial (physical) bodies, and bodies terrestrial (spiritual): but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
1 Corinthians 15:44  It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1 Corinthians 15:50  Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
1 Cor. 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Fact #1. Jesus returns at the last trump (verse 52); His return as King of kings and Lord of lords being "The Kingdom of God" (verse 50).
Fact #2. Flesh and blood cannot enter the kingdom of God (verse 50).
Fact #3. In the twinkling of an eye we shall all be changed (verse 52).
Fact #4. We will be changed from our natural bodies into our spiritual bodies (verse 40 &44).
Oh my! Oh my! What's all that mean? How do I know it's not really Jesus?
Very easy, Prick your finger with a needle. If you draw blood, you're still in your flesh and blood body, get away from there! It's Satan! (see Facts #1, #2, #3 & #4 above)



For more study on "False Rapture Theory" Log unto the following:
#4000Natural body, Spiritual body, Celestial body, Terrestrial body, Corruptible body, Incorruptible body, Mortality, Immortality - What does it all mean?
#4010    Gathering of the tares first disproves the rapture theory.
#4050   Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death
#1452 The day, of our gathering back to Christ, will not happen until AFTER Satan as the false-christ has reigned.
#1453    What happens to our bodies at the last trump?
#1578    We are now ready to weigh the scripture of scriptures upon which the entire Rapture theory hangs in the balance.
#1579If you believe in the Rapture Theory, for the safety and concern of others, when you are traveling in "mixed" company, by all means let a non-believer drive.
#5060The time of the reign of the spurious christ has been shortened to a five month period.
#4075   Your kinfolks and friends may cause your spiritual death.
#4077The women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven; Sounds like easter eggs to me!
#4113   Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: This doesn't mean up in the sky in rain clouds.  Read on, the Bible itself tells us what it really means.
#4109   Another flood is coming, but this one is of lies, not water!



According to the Bible Christ will not return until Satan comes first as the spurious messiah:
The majority of Christians will believe Satan is Christ returned!
2 Thessalonians 2:1  Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2  That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4  Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.


For more study on "Satan Claiming to be Christ Returned" Log unto the following:
#1882 In chapter 14 we get to see what is happening on earth when Jesus Christ returns.
#4186    The day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
#1005   Most Christians believe Christ can return at any time; yet my Bible says He won't return until after these two things happen...
#4163One sure thing must happen yet before Christ returns!
#1892   You see, no one would worship "the Beast" if they believed he was "the Beast"! They WON'T KNOW he's "the Beast"! They will IMAGINE that he is Jesus Christ
#1893 They think Satan is some bad dude who will be going around killing people after they're gone!
#4208   How was it in the days of Noah? The Lord says it will be like that when He returns.
#1896   Satan himself, is present in the 6th Seal, the 6th Trump, and 6th Vial. "666" Amazing isn't it!
#1897 Now think about it. The whole world will be worshipping the false messiah and will think that Jesus is ALREADY HERE!
#1898   They will think Jesus has already returned and it's heaven on earth, peace and safety, all is well.
#1899   While most whores know they are "whoring around" most idolaters of religion think they serve God.
#1900   It is time to wake up to the reality of churchianity!
#1901 She was gorgeous, but she was a whore!
#1902 It will not be "Jesus in Jerusalem" when the false christ arrives. It will be "Satan in Babylon"!
#1903   Is she married to the real "Jesus in Jerusalem"? No, she's married to "Satan in Babylon".
#1904 Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen. The end of all religious confusion has come, for Jesus Christ has returned.
#4185   What shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
#4056   This time a flood of lies will come and take many away spiritually!
#4042   The day of the Lord's return will not come until Satan comes claiming to be God.
#4159   When will the Lord return?
#4227   We who are still mortal will be Judged by our works at the "Great White Throne".
#4188   The old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
#6082    If anyone tells you Jesus Christ can return at any moment, don't you believe it just because he claims to be a Christian preacher or minister, etc!



According to the Bible both the Flesh and Blood and the Spiritually "Dead People are still Alive"
All created beings are Still Alive; at Least for Now
Ezekiel 44:25  And they shall come at no dead person to defile themselves: but for father, or for mother, or for son, or for daughter, for brother, or for sister that hath had no husband, they may defile themselves.
Luke 2:16  And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolk's, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death
Revelation 20:11  And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12  And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.


For more study on "Dead People are Alive" Log unto the following:
#1894 Those who don't "make it" in the first resurrection will be called "the dead" during the Millennium.
#8044   Is everyone who claims to be a Christian going to be able to enter the kingdom and sit at the feet of Jesus during the Millennium?
#4050   Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death
#4058   Those who are part of the first resurrection will reign with Christ during the Millennium but the dead will not live again until the 1000 years is past.
#4034   Dead people are alive
#4134Though he were dead, yet shall he live. Jesus is talking about spiritual death and spiritual life here but the example given is physical so we can comprehend its spiritual meaning!
#4227   We who are still mortal will be Judged by our works at the "Great White Throne".
#4098If you are saved you will still have contact with unsaved family members during the Millennium! You see, people can still be saved during the Millennium if they learn the difference between the holy and profane, and discern between the unclean and the clean.
#4114   Those of us who are not saved (not receiving eternal life) at Christ's return still have a chance after the Millennium based on our works during the Millennium!
#6084What happens to those who do not make or have the opportunity to make the first resurrection?
#6085Teach the people the difference between the holy and the profane.



According to the Bible the "Eternal Torture Theory" is not correct:
To perish means total destruction
Here is the Psalmist describing the fate of the wicked after the "Great White Throne of Judgment"!
Psalms 37:10  For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be
Psalms 37:20  But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
Great White Throne of Judgment
Rev. 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and Him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
[12] And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev. 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Every single person on earth who is spiritually dead, i.e. still has a mortal soul and is subject to the judgment, will be brought forth and judged according to their works.
What is being said here is that even though you missed your opportunity to be saved by grace in this flesh age, all is not lost. You can still become part of the second resurrection at the end of the Millennium if you truly learn to tell the difference between what is Holy and what is profane and pass the final test when Satan is released for a short while at the end of the Millennium.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
These are those of us who still didn't get it even after another 1000 years of training to tell the difference between what is holy and what is profane!

Here is Ezekiel describing Satan's fate, which is the same as ours if we continue to follow him when he is released for a short time at the end of the Millennium!
Ezekiel 28:11  Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
12  Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13  Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14  Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
15  Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
16  By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
17  Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
18  Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
19  All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.
Thank God for this dispensation of grace and for repentance whereby we can have our "activities", our sins, deleted from the books. Remember, those of us who were granted eternal life at the first resurrection, which takes place at the beginning of the Millennium, are not subject to this final judgment at the end of the Millennium which finalizes thier fate; whether it be the second resurrection or the second death.



For more study on "The Eternal Torture theory" Log unto the following:
#4043    So much for the eternal torture theory!
#4091   God is a consuming fire; and never shalt thou be any more!

#4169 "Never shalt thou be any more" So Much for the Eternal Torment Theory!
#4211 God is a consuming fire causing what and who He chooses to perish and be no more.
#4238 Being in torment; what does he mean?
#1914This is the last day of this earth age and the full God head comes to earth.
#1916The lake of fire is the second death, the DESTRUCTION of the wicked souls! (This happens after the Millennium not after this flesh age)
#1917They are all gone, so let's get on with eternity!
#4138   Even after our physical death we are in heaven laboring to be accepted by Christ.
#4194   Why was Lucifer condemned?
#4211God is a consuming fire causing what and who He chooses to perish and be no more.
#6083Then... after that... Satan and all who choose to follow him at that time will be consumed away, blotted out for ever and ever, meaning they will
perish in the lake of fire.



According to the Bible Biblical truths are not given for all to see!
Would you like to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven?
Matthew 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11  He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12  For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Did you know that Jesus Christ gave the brotherhood, His family, the key of David (Rev. 3:7) to open and unlock the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, even those "mysteries" which are contained in the eight parables spoken in this 13th chapter of Matthew.
You were already told how to become part of that family, that brotherhood, in Matthew 12:50: "For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven,the same is my brother, and sister, and mother."
That does not mean that God does not love those who do not seek Him to do His will. On the contrary, it is precisely because He does love them that He speaks to them in parables, lest they should see and hear and become accountable to the point they could commit the unpardonable sin, the penalty of which is to follow the son of perdition into the lake of fire.


For more study on "Biblical truths are not given for all to see" Log unto the following:
#2529   And yet as simple as His explanation is, would you believe that the knowledge He reveals to us is still hidden  to this very day "like a fig" from the multitudes of Christianity!
#2530Jesus Christ told His disciples that He spoke in parables for two reasons.
#2531   So if it "feels good", DO IT! And Eve took hold of the tree (asherah) and "Did it"!
#2532Have you ever wondered why it is that Cain is not listed in Adam's genealogy in chapter five of Genesis?
#2533   Promised with an oath? Well now, here's an opportunity for old Satan to go work.
#2534Christ performs two miracles for the purpose of teaching His disciples (students), those of the brethren with eyes to see and ears to hear.
#2535   A wise person would therefore pay close attention to Christ's instructions.
#2536   One who takes His name and leads His children astray is going to pay an awesome price!
#2537   Christ is now going to take a side trip to the coasts of Tyre and Sidon and return in order to teach His disciples, which means you and me in these last days, a great lesson concerning the grace and mercy of our God.
#2538"Are you able to discern the times* (season) in which we now live?"
#2539   It is written and we have already learned in this great Book of Matthew that not everyone who says "Lord, Lord" shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.
#2540   You might ask yourself ,"What will you take for your soul?" So be careful what you do and who you follow!
#4133  Bible truths are not given for all to see.
#4015   Why did Jesus speak unto most men in parables?



According to the Bible there are 2 groups of humans:
Hebrews 12:23  To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect
The predestination group (see #1 below) and The free choice group (see #2 below).

#1 The group without free choice:

The firstborn or elect group; men with predestination.
Jeremiah 1:5, Romans 9:11, Romans 8:29, and  Ephesians 1:1
No Free Choice for Jeremiah!
Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
6  Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, I cannot speak: for I am a child.
7  But the LORD said unto me, Say not, I am a child: for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee, and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak.
8  Be not afraid of their faces: for I am with thee to deliver thee, saith the LORD.
9  Then the LORD put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the LORD said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth.
No Free Choice for Jacob!
Romans 9:11  (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil,that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
12  It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13  As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
No Free Choice for any of us who God foreknew!
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30  Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
No Free Choice for Paul!
Ephesians 1:1  Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:
2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
3  Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5  Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
6  To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
7  In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
8  Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;
9  Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
10  That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
11  In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

#2 The free choice group:

The general assembly group; men with free choice.
Colossians 3:12, 13 & 14, John 15:14, Isaiah 65:12,  Isaiah 66:4, Proverbs 1:24,
Individuals Free to Choose to follow Jesus!
Colossians 3:12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
13  Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
14  And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.
15  And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.
16  Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
17  And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

Individuals Free to Choose to do whatsoever Jesus commands group!
John 15:9  As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
10  If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
11  These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.
12  This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
13  Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
14  Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
15  Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.
16  Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
17  These things I command you, that ye love one another.
Individuals Free to Choose not to answer the call!
Isaiah 65:11  But ye are they that forsake the LORD, that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for that troop, and that furnish the drink offering unto that number.
12  Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
13  Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, my servants shall eat, but ye shall be hungry: behold, my servants shall drink, but ye shall be thirsty: behold, my servants shall rejoice, but ye shall be ashamed:
14  Behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart, but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart, and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
15  And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:
16  That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes.
Isaiah 66:4  I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them;because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

Proverbs 1:24  Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;



For more study on "Predestination virsus Free Choice" Log unto the following:
#4143   2 groups of humans:  The predestination group and The free choice group.
#4013   It is Recorded That We May Choose Good or Evil, But Either choice has Consequences!
#4084Some of us were chosen in the first earth age to be followers of Christ in this earth age.
#4116   Many predestined according to God's will.
#4119  I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life,
#4147   Paul was not saved by any alter call!  Paul was made an apostle by the "will of God", not by the "will of Paul".
#4156   I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
#4250  Most of us were created with "Free Will"
#4094 We/Us (1st earth age) Ye (this present earth age)



According to the Bible Groves are carved images of the erect male penis.
Seems we have pretty much had sex on our minds since we were first created.

1 Kings 16:33  And Ahab made a grove; and Ahab did more to provoke the LORD God of Israel to anger than all the kings of Israel that were before him

Isaiah 17:8  And he shall not look to the altars, the work of his hands, neither shall respect that which his fingers have made, either the groves, or the images.

Micah 5:14  And I will pluck up thy grovesout of the midst of thee: so will I destroy thy cities.
15  And I will execute vengeance in anger and fury upon the heathen, such as they have not heard.

2 Chronicles 34:4  And they brake down the altars of Baalim in his presence; and the images, that were on high above them, he cut down; and the groves, and the carved images, and the molten images, he brake in pieces, and made dust of them, and strowed it upon the graves of them that had sacrificed unto them.

Deuteronomy 12:3  And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars,and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place.

2 Kings 17:10  And they set them up images and groves in every high hill, and under every green tree:
11  And there they burnt incense in all the high places, as did the heathen whom the LORD carried away before them; and wrought wicked things to provoke the LORD to anger:

1 Kings 15:13  And also Maachah his mother, even her he removed from being queen, because she had made an idol in a grove; And Asa destroyed her idol, and burnt it by the brook Kidron.
1 Kings 15:14  But the high places were not removed: nevertheless Asa's heart was perfect with the LORD all his days

2 Chronicles 15:16  And also concerning Maachah the mother of Asa the king, he removed her from being queen, because she had made an idol in a grove: and Asa cut down her idol, and stamped it, and burnt it at the brook Kidron.



For more study on "Groves" Log unto the following:
#4145   Groves of carved images of the erect male penis.


In the Bible, Jesus teaches us, by example, to "Find and Fill in the Gaps".
#1087  "Find and Fill in the Gaps"


According to the Bible Jesus says to some Christians at his return, "Depart from me. I never knew you."
#4244 If Christ isn't addressing this message to many of us professing Christians in many of our "Christian churches", during these end times, who in the world is He addressing the message to?


According to the Bible Jesus Christ is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
1 Timothy 4:10  For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

Remember, after our death in this flesh life we again become spirit beings, so therefore, "dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame." doesn't mean what your flesh and blood influenced reasoning leads you to think it means.

Christ was using a physical example, which he knew we would understand, to teach us a spiritual lesson which is much harder for we flesh and blood persons to grasp.

What it really means is, Lazarus has the benefit of the Lord's living water and the rich man doesn't.

Luke 16:19  There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
20  And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21  And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22  And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23  And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24  And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25  But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26  And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.



 We were created with "Free Will"  Ref. Scripture Deuteronomy 30:15 & 19  {15} See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;  {19} I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:


Note: The predestined among us have, in the first earth age, chosen life!