The Pre-Adamic Earth
had men on it.
Who were these people?
Let's find out who they were!

The Creative Ages (Genesis 1:1-2;25)
Isaiah 45:18  For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
This is how God originally created the heavens and the earth (as described in Genesis 1:1)He formed the earth to be inhabited and it was. We'll show you shortly, that he created men first and then this earth for them to live on.

Yet; If we look at Jeremiah's vision of the earth
(Jer. 4:23-26) it was without form and void; and had no light and the mountains trembled and the hills moved. And there were no men and all the birds were gone
(as described in Genesis 1:2).

When he said the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities were broken down because of the Lord's anger.
He must have seen the earth as it is described in Gen. 1:2 and as Peter described it in 2 Peter 3:6 because the earth has never been empty and waste and dark since the six days of God's activity
(as described in Gen. 1:3 to 2:25).

2 Peter 3:5  For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old,  and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

 
The only time the sun and stars were not allowed to give light was the period before the six days. They have been giving light ever since. There never has been a time or will be a time when there were no men on earth since then. Yet Jeremiah said all the cities were gone and no men were there.

 
Jeremiah 4:23  I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
24  I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
25  I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
26  I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger

Who were these people who lived here in the age of the dinosaurs?
Let's find out who they were!
Keep reading!

What was happening on earth between (Gen. 1:1), Isaiah's vision of the inhabited earth or (2 Peter 3:5 Peter's description of the earth standing out of the water and (Gen. 1:2) Jeremiah's vision of the flooded, empty and void earth or (2 Peter 3:6) Peter's overflowed earth?


 Did it ever occur to you that you have been deceived about which came first, the earth or you?

If you have been taught, as I was, that in Gen. 1:1 God created the heaven and the earth first and later, on the sixth day, He created us, my Bible disagrees and we have been deceived.

Let's look at that time before the beginning, before Gen. 1:1, when God brought into being all of His many children, including you and me, who are "sons of God", even as we are called in the Bible.

That's right, you were, and you are, a son of the living God, and you and I are "older than the hills".

"I don't believe it", you say.

Stick around, I'll show it to you in His Word.

You can reject it if you choose, because you never heard it before
and because it sounds strange to you.

All souls, God's children, were brought into being, and than our Father proceeded to build for us, His family, the most beautiful Home in all of the Universe.

He called it Earth.

Then, when our Father had finished building, i.e. creating the earth,
We, His children were so thrilled and so excited that we shouted for joy!

Here's your documentation:

Job 38:1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, [2] Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
God had just scolded Job's friends saying," My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath."

Unfortunately, many preachers today don't speak of God or His Word the things that are right!

It is good that we now have the written Word of God and we are to determine what is truth through that Word. If what man (your preacher) tells you is written therein, then hold fast to that which is good.
If what man (your preacher) tells you, contradicts what is written therein, then pitch it.

Make sure you do your homework before you accept or reject it.
Your own opinion doesn't count as far as God is concerned!

[3] Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
Your preacher won't be there when you answer this question.

What will you say when God asks why you haven't read and studied His Word?

[4] Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
[5] Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

[6] Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

[7] When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Did you catch that?
ALL of the sons of God, including you and me and Job, etc., shouted for joy when God created this beautiful earth.

He said so!
You just read it!
And we loved it, else we wouldn't have shouted for joy!

Now, that means we came before the earth was created. Yes, it means we have been deceived.

The earth as created in Gen. 1:1 must have been stunning, for it was quite different back then, before it was knocked off its axis.

Yes, we lived on earth with the dinosaurs and mammoths.
Now we will show you proof that there were
 "Men on earth before Adam!"

How can this be?

In Genesis 1:1 the Bible tells us God created the original world. This is definitely pre-Adamic because Adam was created much later. The following facts make it clear that the term 'in the beginning' used in Genesis1:1-2
does not refer to the time or work of the six days of Genesis 1:3-2:25.regarding the original creation.

If you are one of the deceived, who think this is bunk, here are some things to consider:
The word and is used 148 times in Genesis chapters one and two  to separate 102 different independent and important acts of God. The and of verse 1:2 proves that the work of verse 2 is entirely independent of the work of verse 1.

Genesis 1:1  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Genesis 1:2  And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

The word and in verse 2 proves that the work of verse 2 is entirely independent of the work of verse 1.


Verse 1 records the original creation of the heavens and the earth.

Then verse 2 records that the original dry land, or earth, was made chaos and flooded through a great catastrophe, which destroyed all terrestrial life (God destroyed all animal life, but not us, for we were still in our original celestial bodies during the first earth age) on this pre-Adamic earth. This happened a long time after it was created, (we'll show you how and why shortly) maybe millions or even billions of years later.


The word was in verse 2 is from the verb to become, not the verb to be, which proves that the earth became waste and empty sometime after it was originally created as we are told in verse 1 and lived on in the beginning.


The phrase without form in verse 2 is from the Hebrew word tohu, meaning waste or desolation. It is translated waste
(Dt. 32:10); without form (Gen.1:2; Jer.4:23); vain (Isa.45:18, 1 Sam. 12:21); confusion (Isa. 24:10; 34:11; 41:29); empty Job 26:7); vanity (Isa.40:17,23; 44:9;  59:4); nothing (Job 6:18; Isa.40:17); wilderness (Job 12:24; Ps. 107:40).  These passages tell us that the condition of the earth in verse 2 of Genesis 1 was not the way God originally created it. The earth was not created in a waste and ruined condition. Isa. 45:18 lets us know that He did not create the earth tohu  (vain, waste, desolate, yet in verse 2 that's the way it is.
Isaiah 45:18  For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Therefore, we must conclude that the earth was made perfect, dry land, beautiful, and lived on originally, and people lived on it, and that later it became empty, waste and a ruin because of sin.

The Hebrew word for void is bohu, empty, ruin, void. It is translated void (Genesis 1:2; Jer.4:23); and  emptiness (Isa.34:11).

The Hebrew phrase tohu va bohu, waste and empty, describes the chaotic condition of the earth at the time it was cursed and made flooded because of the sins of Lucifer and the people who lived here prior to Adam. It could not refer to the earth as originally created - beautiful, perfect, dry land.

The earth was created to be lived on (Isa.45:18}, and was lived on before the flood of Genesis1:2 and the work of the 6 days of Adam's time. (Gen.1:3-2:25; Isa.14:12-14; Jer.4:23-26; Ezek.28:11-17; 2 Pet.3:5-8).

The earth is called dry land in Genesis1:10 which means Genesis1:1 could read, "In the beginning God created the heaven and dry land." Since it was created dry, not wet and flooded as in Genesis1:2, it was immediately lived on: and the flood of Genesis1:2 was a curse, not a creative act. According to Ps.136:6 the earth was originally created dry land and stretched above the waters, not the waters stretched upon the earth. This requires a race of men whose sin brought such a curse prior to the creation of Adam.

In Genesis1:2 the earth is not only flooded with water but is in total darkness, the sun, moon, and the stars having withdrawn their light, causing all terrestrial life on earth to be totally destroyed.

This means there was a pre-Adamic world with vegetation, birds, animals, and men as proved in Jer.4:23-26.
Jeremiah 4:23  I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. 24  I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. 25  I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. 26  I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.

We have the fact recorded in Genesis1:2 that the earth, the waters, and the darkness were already in existence before God's work of the 6 days which begin in Genesis 1:3 and continued until the earth was restored to a second habitable state in Genesis 2:25.

Thus, it is clear from Genesis 1:1-2 (and related scriptures) that:
In the beginning, the dateless pastnot in 6 days, about 6000 years ago, God created the heavens, including the sun, moon, and stars - all the heavenly bodies in space.   

In the beginning
or the dateless past, as
stated above God created the earth or dry land.
When? It may have been millions or even billions of years ago!

The heaven and the earth
were created by God; they
were not the product of molecules deciding to produce innumerable offspring of heavenly and earthly things.
 

The heavens were created earlier then the earth was. (Job 38:4-7)

Job 38:4-7
This is God's advise to Job. Stand up like a man, for I am going to tell you a few things, and I will demand an answer of you.

Job 38:4 "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding."

God is asking Job, but directing the question to Elihu as well as Job; where were you when I laid the foundation of earth. God is letting Elihu know that nothing that he has said came from Me, so don't put words in My mouth.

Job 38:5 "Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?"

Who has determined the measurement of the sun, moon, and earth, and placed the line or signs of the constellations around the earth?

Job 38:6 "Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;"

God is asking, what holds this earth exactly where it is, do you know Job? do you know Elihu? Stop and think for a moment of all the laws of God, those dealing with gravity, with magnetism, with heat and pressures and all the other things that go to make up the atmosphere of the earth that we live on, and rely on for our life, as we live here in these flesh bodies. This sets our Heavenly Father in a class all by Himself. Man is nothing compared to the Creator.

Job 38:7 "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for Joy?"

Who were these "sons of God" [the stars that sang], and when did these sons of God sing for Joy? Are we talking about the first or second earth age here. All souls were there and Satan also was there with them when God created the first earth prior to Satan's rebellion. Some how, for some reason, the people of this earth age are trying to forget Satan and the role that he played at the rebellion in that first earth age. We see that Satan was not included in the conversation with Job and his friends at this time. They all have overlooked the overall plan of God.

However, had Job known the plan of God, where would he have had to have been then, when the foundations of this earth were laid and the angels were rejoicing? Of course He would have been there with the rest of us, where we all were. You see, we, all of God's children, were created before the foundations of the earth were laid, and so was Job.


American Wisdom Series note: I believe God is talking about all of us, His created children, here in verse 7. Except only, the morning stars sang together. But all our brothers, we who are also sons of God, (even those who followed Satan in his first earth age rebellion) shouted for Joy when they saw the earth God created for them to live on.

Both the heaven and the earth were created before the earth was flooded.

The earth was created dry land, not wet and flooded. (Genesis1;10; Isa.45:18)

Genesis 1:10 "And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called He Seas: and God saw that it was good."
Isaiah 45:18  For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

The waters that later flooded the dry land or earth were created in the beginning along with the earth, to cause the dry land to become productive (Job 38:4-30), and not to curse the earth as in Genesis 1:2

Who gave birth to this earth, and set the shore lines to the sea, to all those great bodies of water around this earth. Where did they come form, and what holds them in place? O course it is God's laws of gravity, the pull of the moon, sun and other heavenly bodies.

Only the earth was cursed, flooded,
and filled with darkness, not the heavens. v.2
  

We must therefore conclude that Genesis 1:1-2 proves a pre-Adamic world that was destroyed by a flood, which necessitated the making of the present Adamic world so that the original purpose of God concerning the earth could be realized (Isa.45:18)

Isaiah 45:18
  For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.


It is further revealed in Genesis 1:2 that the spirit of God began to move upon the flooded earth and in the darkness to restore the dry land as before it was flooded. This also confirms the fact of a pre-Adamic world which was destroyed, making it necessary to restore the earth to a second habitable stare as in the six days of Genesis 1:3-2:25

In Scripture all instances of obscuring and bringing consequent darkness, and the two past cases of major floods are revealed to be the result of judgment, not creation (Gen.6:8-8:22; Ex.10:21-23; Isa.5:30; Jer.4:23-26) All predictions of such future darkness depict judgment (Mt.8:12; 24:29-31; Rev.6:12-17; 8:12; 9:2; 16:10; Isa.13:10; Joel 2:30-3:16; Amos 5:18-20;) Could we say that Gen.1:2 is an exception and the only place in Scripture where darkness and the major flooded earth are not an act of judgment? If then, as in other cases, these are the result of judgment, Genesis1:2 definitely proves there was a pre-Adamic world which was destroyed by darkness and flood.

No one questions the flood of Noah's time being an act of judgment passed on free moral agents because of sin. No one doubts the existence of free moral agents before the flood actually came.

Why, then, doubt the existence of a pre-Adamic world which was destroyed by darkness and flood before Genesis 1:2? That this was even a worse flood than the one of Noah's time, and an act of judgment in punishment of more horrible sins clear from the chart of contrasts below.

We find proof of two large floods on earth, one in Lucifer's day and another in Noah's, in Gen.1:2
; Isa.14:12-14; Jer.4:23-26; 2 Pet.3:5-8.

Let's compare Lucifer's Flood to Noah's Flood

After Lucifer's Flood                                           After Noah's Flood

Earth made made waste                                                          Not made made waste
Gen.1:2; Jer.4:23                                                                       Gen.8:11-12, 22 
Earth made empty                                                                    Not made empty
Gen.1:2; Jer.4:23                                                                       Gen.6:17-22; 8:16
Earth made totally dark                                                           Not made dark
Gen.1:2; Jer.4:23                                                                       Gen.6:6-22
No light from heaven                                            The sun still gave light
Gen.1:2-5; Jer.4:23                                                                    Gen.8:1-22
There were no days                                                                There were days
Gen.1:10                                                                                    Gen.8:1-22
All vegetation destroyed                                                       Vegetation not destroyed

Gen.1:2-12; Jer.4:23-26                                                           Gen. 8:11-12, 22
God rebuked the waters                                                         Waters gradually receded
    they hastened away                                                                  away over a period of months
Gen.1:6-12; Ps.104:7                                                                 Gen.8:1-14
Flood waters taken away in one day                                     Flood waters taken away in months
Gen.1:10                                                                                     Gen..8:1-14
Waters taken away supernaturally                                       Waters receded naturally
Gen.1:6-12                                                                                 Gen.8:1-14
All fish destroyed                                                                   Fish were not destroyed
Gen.1:2, 20-23; Jer.4:23-26                                                      Gen.8:6:18-8:22
No foul were left                                                                      Foul did not disappear
Gen.1:2, 20; Jer.4:23-26                                             Gen.8:6:20; 8:17
No animals were left                                                                Animals were saved
Gen.1:24-25; 2:19                                                    Gen.6:20; 8:17
No men left on earth                                                               Men were saved
                                                                                                      (8 from eighth day creation and many from sixth day)
No social system was left                                                      Social system was preserved
2 Pet.3:6; Jer.4:23-26                                                               Gen.6:18; 8:22; 2 Pet.2:5
Flood Caused by fall of Satan                                              Flood  Caused by fall of man
Isa.14:12-14; Jer.4:23-26; Ezek.28:11-17; Lk.10:18               Gen.6:5-13; & fallen angels Gen.6:1-4
Became necessary to re-create                                             All things were preserved
God sets bounds for waters                                                  Bounds are already set
Ps.104:9                                                                                     Gen.1:6-12, 8:2


The flood of Noah's day lasted over a year, yet vegetation wasn't destroyed. But, in Lucifer's flood the fruitful place became a wilderness (Jer.4:23-26) New vegetation had to be planted in the six days, for the earth had been made totally desolate (Gen.1:11-12; 2:5; 8:17). This proves Lucifer's flood was on the earth longer than Noah's and without a doubt for a more serious rebellion. A complete rebellion of 1/3 of the pre-Adamic world. (Genesis 12:3-4)

Revelation 12:3 "And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, haven seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads."

This wonder, the "Great red dragon", is always Satan. Here again, it is all happening prior to Genesis 1:2, in the first earth age. All these events will be just like it will be at the end of this earth age. Satan had seven dominions then, with ten agencies of power that had authority. Satan had complete universal control over that prior earth kingdom; and he had total political control. This we will see in Revelation 13, is a copy of this earth age, and the United Nations, with it's ten units of power, taking control over all it's dominions. Though the forms of government and their systems appear at first to be the same, we will see the differences between these two ages: That of the first earth age, and the flesh age we are now in.

Revelation 12:4 "And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born."

The "stars" of heaven are the "sons of God". This "old dragon" caused one third of all of God's creation to follow him. One third of God's children, are all those souls in their "celestial bodies", also called "angelic souls". No my friend, they do not have wings, but the cherubs do.

What it is saying here, is through Lucifer's (who is now called Satan) fall in the first earth age, he drew one third of God's children to him. He caused them to fall, and they worshipped him, and believed in him to be their God. That is also his desire for this age; to cause you and me, the children of God, to worship him

The command for Adam to replenish the earth (fill it again) - not plenish it, proves that the earth had been filled before this (Gen.1:28) God gave the same command to Noah, after the second major flood (Gen.9:1-2. Should we conclude from His command for Noah to replenish the earth that He meant to fill it for the first tim e, and not to refill it? Substitute fill (as meaning supply for the first time) in Gen.9:1; Isa.2:6; 23:2; Jer.31:25; Ezek.26:2; 27:25 as some do in Gen.1:28 and see if it makes better sense. Whatever word we use in these other places where replenish is used in the King James Version, let us be consistent and give the same meaning to Gen.1:28.

American Wisdom Series Note: To all those people who call us, saying "No, there was no one living on earth between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2, the word should have been translated fill; Not refill!" We say, "What difference would that make?" Whether fill is used, or re-fill is used; Neither translation would prove the earth was not populated prior to Lucifer's flood! 
It seems that "The Holy Spirit" had opened the eyes of the King James translators.
Our prayer is, that He will also "Open the Eyes" of all those who refuse to believe the obvious.

The fact that Lucifer/Satan had already ruled the earth and become a fallen being before Adam's time is proof that the races of flesh and blood mankind were not the first ones on earth. We, then, must acknowledge that Satan's fall was before Adam's time because he was already a fallen being before he came into Adam's Garden of Eden (Gen.3:;  2 Cor.11:3). So, he must have fallen in a pre-Adamic creation.
 
According to Isa.14:12-14, Lucifer actually invaded heaven from earth, hoping to defeat God and take His kingdom; but, Lucifer, himself was defeated and his kingdom on earth cursed. Before his defeat he had a throne and therefore a kingdom and subjects to rule over. His kingdom was under the clouds, under the stars, and under the heavens, therefore, it was on earth. Having weakened the nations over whom he ruled, he wanting to be like God and take God's place in heaven. All this had to be before Adam's day, for no such things have occurred since Adam's creation.

In Ezek.28:11-17 we have a picture of Lucifer before the fall, as the anointed cherub or protector of the earth, where he was full of wisdom and perfect in beauty, being created of God and perfect in his ways up to the time of his fall. This passage gives the reason for Lucifer/Satan's fall and the result of it. The only time this could have been true of Satan was before the days of Adam, thus proving a pre-Adamic world.
verse 13 "thou hast been in Eden,..." proves Ezekiel is talking about Lucifer/Satan.

In Jer.4:23-26 we have a full description of this earth under a total curse, as in Genesis 1:2. It was desolate and empty, the heavens had no light, the hill and the mountains were undergoing convulsions, there was no man, no bird, no animal, no fruitful place, and no city left standing because of God's fierce anger. The only time Jeremiah could have seen the earth without form and void and totally dark and desolate of all life was at the same time Moses saw it, thus, and as recorded by him in Genesis 1:2. There never has been a time from Adam until this 21st. century when the earth was in such a state (not even at the time of Noah's flood), and there never will be a time of such a curse in the eternal future. The only time Jer.4:23-26 could be fulfilled was before Adam, for the earth was in such a condition when the Spirit began the six days work of restoring the earth to a second livable state (Genesis 1:2-21). Regarding the future, such will never be the condition of the earth again, for at the second advent Christ will begin to reign over all nations on the earth forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end. (Gen.8:22; 9:12; Isa.9:6-7; 59:21; Dan.2:44-45; 7:13-14, 18, 27 Zack.14; Lk.1:32-33; Rev.1:6; 5:10; 11:15; 20:4-10;22:4-5) Even the renovation of the heaven and the earth at the end of the Millennium will not make the earth desolate as pictured in Genesis 1:2 and Jer.4:23-24. Therefore, Jer.4:23-26 must refer to the same judgment as pictured in Genesis 1:2, thus proving further that a real social system - men, birds, fruitful places, cities - existed before Adam.

Ps.104:5-9 speaks of God sending a flood on earth after it's creation, at which time the waters stood above the mountains. Verse 7 identifies this as Lucifer's flood, saying "At thy rebuke they fled." In the case of Noah's flood, the waters slowly and naturally abated. Furthermore verse 9 makes it clear that this flood was at a time when God set a bound for the waters "that they turn not again to cover the earth," and that is what happened in the 6 days' work of Gen.1:3-2:25. Thus Ps.104:5-9 refers to the same flood as Genesis 1:2 and proves the existence of a pre-Adamic world, which was overthrown by a flood

Turning to the new N.T. we find that Jesus taught the fall of Satan from heaven, in Lk.10:18. When did he fall? Before Adam's time, for he was already a fallen creature when he came into Adam's Eden (Gen.3). Why did he fall?
 Because of pride and wanting to exalt his earthly kingdom above God's (Isa.14:12-16; Ezek.28:11-17). What was the result of his fall? All of Satan's earthly subjects as well as 1/3 of God's own angels fell with him. {I believe these earthly subjects and the 1/3 of the angels, who fell with them, are one in the same beings/us, you and me, or at the very least, our brothers. see Rev. 22:9 and the Summary at the end of this study} (Rev.12:3-4,) and all earth-nations were completely, destroyed along with vegetation, fish, fowls and animals (2 Pet.3:5-8) because of the Lord's anger. Thus, Lk.10:18 substantiates the teaching of O.T.passages regarding a pre-Adamic world.

Jesus further taught the overthrow of the pre-Adamic world by plainly stating that the world had been overthrown. (see Mt.13:34-35 & note below)

Matthew 13:34
All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake He not unto them[35] That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.

(Note) katabolē
kat-ab-ol-ay'
From G2598; a deposition, that is, founding; figuratively conception: - conceive, foundation.
Gr. Katabole, to cast or throw down (2 Cor.4:9; Rev.12:10) it should have been translated "overthrow" or casting down of the world" in v.35; 25:34; Lk.11:50; Jn.17:24;Eph.1:4; Heb.4:3;9:26;11:10;1 Pet.1:20; Rev.13:8;17:8. With the exception of Heb.11:10, katabole is used with kosmos, social world, and refers to the overthrow of the pre-Adamic world by the flood of Gen.1:2; 2 Pet.3:5-8;Ps.104:5-9; Jer.4:23-26 and the defeat of Lucifer and his earthly kingdom before Adam (Isa.14:12-14; Ezek.28:11-17; Lk.10:18). Katabole means the destruction or overthrow, or ruin of the social system before Adam.


Paul also taught the overthrow of the pre-Adamic world (Eph.1:4; Heb.4:3; 9:26. See note above.
Ephesians 1:4 "According as He hath chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love:"
"Before the foundation of the world", [cosmos in the Greek, meaning world or earth age.] The "foundation" in the Greek text, is the verb for, "the overthrow". This refers to something that happened in that first earth age, before the defeat of Satan and the angels/us that followed him. When Satan fell [war against God], one third of all angelic beings [God's children, i.e. our brothers] followed Satan. Then during that war, there were some who fought against Satan, and those who did, God calls "His Chosen". They took a stand, and were overcomers in that first earth age.

Hebrews 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
The plan of God and the "rest", that eternal rest He has prepared for His children who love Him, was appointed even before foundation of the world, which means before the overthrow of Satan in the "world that then was (1 Pet. 3:6)". (See appendix 146 in the Companion Bible.)

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Hebrews 9:26] For then must He often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath He appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.

You see, the Plan of God was ordained even before the "katabole", the casting down and overthrow of the Satan, the great red dragon in the first earth age.
(See appendix 146 in the Companion Bible.)

Peter was very definite in his statements regarding a social system overthrow before Adam. Two social systems are mentioned by Peter , one was before the one which is now, and the other after the one that was.(2 Peter 3:6-7)  

II Peter 3:6 "Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:"

That world age or cosmos that existed in that ancient time of the past, and everything that was a part of it was destroyed completely. All animal life on it was completely done away with, and God removed us from it until such a time as He again made it habitable.  God destroyed it completely and it happened at Satan's overthrow. Many people believe that this flood was the flood of Noah's day, however, the flood of Noah's day did not destroy this world age, life from before that flood carried right over into the dispensation that followed one year later, after the waters had subsided.

John referred to the overthrow of the pre-Adamic world ( Rev. 13:8; 17:8).  It is clear that both testaments give proof of a pre-Adamic world.

Scientific findings of concerning pre-historic animals, the age of the earth, and its rock formations can be recognized only if we believe the Bible's revelation of a pre-Adamic world. There are many questions which cannot be answered apart from belief in the pre-Adamic age. How did Lucifer become the devil, the prince of demons? When did he weaken the nations, and ascend into heaven to exalt his throne above the stars? When did he fall from heaven as in Isa.14:12-14? How and when did demons originate and for what purpose? What caused the earth to become as described in Gen. 1:2; Jer. 4:23-26; Ps. 104:6-9; 2 Pet.3:5-6? Why was hell prepared for the devil and his angels as stated in Mt. 25:41, and why was it located beneath the earth (Mt. 12:40; Eph. 4:7-11)? Why was Adam told to replenish and not merely to plenish the earth? These, along with many other questions go unanswered apart from a belief in the pre-Adamic world. Even in the first two verses of Genesis, God declared that there was a first earth age. Lets go there and study what the Word actually says there.

Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

There are two bodies mentioned in this verse; the heaven and the earth. It simply states a fact, and left the time factor out. This verse not only did not say when, but left it totally to our imagination, as to the eternal span of time, and how the creation took place. In Proverbs 8:22 we read of wisdom speaking through Solomon. Wisdom is God, for all wisdom is of God. "The Lord possessed me in the beginning of His ways, before the works of old." What works of old could this be? It is the old earth age, spoken of in Revelation 12.

Proverbs 8:23 "I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was."

This is stating that wisdom was with God, and He possessed me.

Proverbs 8:24 "When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water."

Before there was any need of an abyss, or pit, and the water to fill them, God's wisdom was there.

Proverbs 8:25 "Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:"

Before the earth even took on its present form, with the high mountains and rolling hills, God's wisdom was there. God's wisdom played part in the creation of this earth, and all wisdom comes from God.

Proverbs 8:26 "While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the high part [beginning] of the dust of the world."

God was even there before that first Adam, or speck of dust of the earth was formed.

Proverbs 8:27 "When he prepared the heavens and set a compass (circle) upon the face of the depth:"

Proverbs 8:28 "And when he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:"

Proverbs 8:29 "When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the fountains of the earth:"

In other words what this is saying is that there was land, and oceans, and fields and lakes, and God set His commandment that they should be separated through the "compass" which He set: and we call it "gravity" today. This is the force that separates all water from dry land. When the waves hit the rocks of the shoreline, they resend back into the sea.

God allowed Job to be tested by both Satan and his fellow man, in the book of Job. However, after 37 chapters of man's nonsense, ramblings, and bad advise by those around Job, God spoke to Job.

Job 38:1, 2: "Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?"

Job had been tested to the point of losing his entire family, all his property, and he had been inflicted by sores and sickness, yet he did not curse God. He was in a poor frame of mind when God again came to Job. Job had been listening to the trash of men's doctrines for the first thirty seven verses of the book of Job, and now Job was ready to put those ramblings aside of other men, and listen directly to God.

Job 38:3 "Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou Me."

God told Job to straighten up and be a man, and listen to what He is about to tell Job. Then God spells out in detail how He laid out the foundations of the earth and the heaven, and all matters concerning them. Then in the rest of Job 38 and 39 God reveals the wisdom that we read about in Proverbs 8.

God told Job how He put the universe all together. Our God is infinite in wisdom and power, yet His love for His children is so great that He allowed Himself to be killed as a man, on the cross at Calvary hill. It was this act of love that made it possible for mankind to except Him as their Savior and approach Him as His child.

So there is a complete separation between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2. Genesis 1:1 is the first creation of heaven and earth, while Genesis 1:2 is the destruction of this earth after the fall or rebellion of Satan.

Genesis 1:2 "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep."

Who is the Spirit of God? He is the Holy Spirit, and it is God's Spirit that moved upon the face of the waters. In the Hebrew text the translation of the word, "was" as used in this verse "...the earth was without form,..."; we see in the Massorah test it reads "(to become) without form...". The earth was not created a ruin but it became a ruin after the fall of Satan. It is the translators that changed the word from became, to was when they put it into English. Genesis 1:2 uses the same Hebrew word that was used in Genesis 2:7 "...and man became a living soul."

The correct translation of the Hebrew from the Massoretic text for these words, "...without form..." is "tohu-va-bohu". So we see that the earth was not created "without form", but it became [tohu] without form and void". Lets go to Strong's Hebrew dictionary, reference number 1961 to verify the word "was", that we read in this verse. "Hayah, haw-yaw; a prime root, to exit; to become, or come to pass."

Now lets continue in the Strong's Hebrew dictionary to get the pure meaning for the word "void". # 2258, on page 36 tells us that we have to go to # 2254 for the prime root word for the meaning of the word "void". "Chabal, khaw-bal; to wind tightly as a rope, to bind, to pervert, destroy, to corrupt, spoil, travail." This corresponds with its other use in # 2255, which is "to ruin".

"Tohu" of the earth, then means that total destruction has come to pass upon the earth. The second "was" in the verse is in italics type because there is no verb "to be" in the Hebrew language. This is one of the problems in translating Hebrew into English, the verb "to be" is not distinguished from the verb, "to become".

At the end of the first earth age of Genesis 1:1 that age ceased to exist in its previous form. God created the earth to be inhabited, and then He destroyed it. There was an entire earth age that existed between the first two verses of Genesis. This first earth age is spoken of in Jeremiah, Proverbs, and Jude, as well as in II Peter. We will look into these Scriptures and try to understand the deeper meaning of our Father's Word.

If you don't understand that there was a first earth age, you will not understand why God would say in Malachi 1:3; "And I hated Esau...". God hated Esau even while he was in his mother's womb. It was in the first earth age that God hated Esau, because of what he was and did in that first earth age. It was what Esau's soul did in that age, that angered God so; and that anger passed on to the embryo of Esau when his soul entered into this earth age. This is also recorded in Romans 9:13.

Genesis 1:2 then verifies that our earth is far older then 6000 years old, when in fact it is probably millions, even billions, of years old. However, no matter how old this earth is, it is the only place in the universe that mankind, and the animals can exist in the flesh form that we are in and survive. We do not worship the creation, but we worship the creator, our Heavenly Father. God is in control of all of His creation, and He destroyed all forms of terrestrial life that lived on earth from that first earth age.

Isaiah 45:18 "For thus saith the Lord That created the heavens: God Himself formed the earth and made it; He hath established it, He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited: "I am the Lord; and there is none else." "

God is speaking and Isaiah is writing what God is saying down, and God is telling us that when He created the earth, it was not in vain. "Vain" as used here is the same Hebrew word that we saw in Genesis 1:2, which was given as "void", or ruin. God created this earth to be lived on, and to be inhabited. Genesis 1:1 told us that God created the earth to be inhabited. "Tohu", the "destruction", was not part of the creation plan, but came after the fall of Satan, when one third of all the souls followed Satan in the first earth age, in verse two.

So when we go back into II Peter 3:6, "Whereby the world that then was, being over-flowed with water, perished." We see that it was that earth age that perished, and all terrestrial life that was part of it. It became void at the rebellion of Satan when he drew one third of God's created souls with him. This is what Revelation 12:1-4 is all about. It was in the first earth age that this took place, and what happened then is a type of what shall happen again in our generation.

Revelation 12:1 "And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:"

In this chapter of Revelation we now leave the last three and a half year period of this age and return all the way back to the world that was [the first earth age]. Some of the events that happened in that world that was will be a type of what we will see in our present earth age. This wonder that takes place is a great sign in the heavens. The "woman" here is not the church, for a church building has never delivered any child. This mother has nothing to do with the church. This woman is "Israel", the twelve sons of Jacob, or tribes as described in John 16:21. (Where is Israel today? It is the tribes of Israel who make up Christian nations which are found in western Europe, the isles of Britain and the Americas) The same political and social order that was in existence at the end of the first earth age, will be ruling over the earth in the end of our current earth age.

Revelation 12:2 "And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered."

This child to be delivered is the Messiah, and the woman delivering the child is the symbol of "Israel", however in the physical sense, we call her Mary. It is Satan's sole purpose to destroy this child. This is the wife and the son of Almighty God, and he wants us to feel these events occurring. What happens to them affects Him, exactly as it would you or me in a similar case.

Revelation 12:3 "And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold, a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads."

This wonder, the "Great red dragon", is always Satan. Here again, it is all happening in heaven, prior to Genesis 1:2, in the first earth age. Just like it will be at the end of this earth age, Satan had seven dominions, with ten agencies of power and authority. Satan had complete universal control over that prior earth kingdom; and he also had total political control. This is pointed out in detail in Revelation 13, and it is a copy of what is happening in this earth age with the United Nations, and it's ten units of power that is taking control over all the dominions on the face of the earth.

Revelation 12:4 "And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born."

The "stars of heaven" are the "sons of God". This old dragon caused one third of all of God's creation to follow him. One third of God's children are all those people that lived then in their "celestial bodies", which is also called angelic souls. So what this is saying here, is that when Satan fell he drew one third of God's children to him. He caused them to fall, and they worshipped Satan as God, and believed him to be God. That is his desire also for this age; to cause you and me, the children, of God, even though we are now in thls earth age and are in animal type bodies, to worship him.

When we read that "all living came from mother Eve", it means that "Messiah" came from, or through the womb of Eve. He came as the offspring of Eve, and her offspring Mary. And it is through the Messiah, Jesus Christ that eternal life to all mankind is offered. For you and me and all mankind to receive eternal life, each soul must pass from death to life through the blood of Jesus Christ. So we see this refers to spiritual life, and not physical life.

It was in that first earth age at the fall of Satan, when the third of the angels, i.e. us,  followed him that many took a stand on the side of God. This is why Ephesians 1:4 draws our attention to those that did make a stand then.

Ephesians 1:4 "According as He hath chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love:"

What does it mean to be chosen?

It means that there are certain people that God chose in the first earth age to do a task for Him in this flesh earth age. This is not reincarnation, for it is appointed for each of us to go through this earth age, the flesh earth age, once and only once. Hebrews 9:27 tells us; "...It is appointed unto men once to die [in the flesh], but after this the judgment." This appointing and choosing took place before the foundation of this earth age; before the age when the souls are placed in the flesh, in our turn, for we are living now in the second earth age or cosmos.

"Without blame" refers to the fact that God intercedes in certain peoples lives. Certain people have free will, while certain others are of God's election, whether they know it or not, at this time, however, God doesn't play favorites. Christ died for the sins of all those who will repent; both the chosen and the free will people. Every soul must repent for the sins that they commit, and love the Lord Jesus Christ to have the hope of His glory.

"Before the foundation of the world", "world" in the Greek is "cosmos", meaning world or earth age. "Foundation" in the Greek is the verb for "the overthrow". This again refers to something that happened in that first earth age, before the overthrow by Satan, and the third of the angels/us followed him.

Remember back in Romans 8:27; "And he that searcheth the heart knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God." These saints are the set-aside ones, or the ones chosen. God has a overall plan, and the purpose in that plan is to bring those children that fell back to Himself.

Ephesians 1:5 "Having pre destinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,"

"Predestined" means "from a time prior", or "required to do a certain thing" in the Greek. You have a choice of loving God, or loving Satan. God will not interfere with your free will choice to chose Him or Satan. However, that person that proved himself or herself during the overthrow of Satan, were "justified", or judged and earned the right to be called "saints" from that first earth age. These again are those which are called "God's elect".

Each soul comes from God and in their turn, enters an embryo at conception. This is why Jeremiah was called a "chosen one". God said to Jeremiah in Jeremiah 1:5; "Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou comest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet of nations."

"Sanctified" thee is to "set aside" Jeremiah for a purpose. Jeremiah's sins still had to be repented of, and the price of the blood of Christ had to pay for them, even though Christ had not been born in the flesh yet.. To be predestined is to be fore chosen. Just because you are predestined, God can still make life very miserable to those out of His will so they will repent and get back into His will for them. God has a perfect will and He is always fair.

II Peter 3:7 "But the heavens and the earth which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men."

This is in reference to the second heaven and earth age which we are living in now. This earth age will not be destroyed until God's time of judgment on the ungodly men of this earth has come to a close. That time of perdition [destruction] is after the Millennium age, and after the Great white throne judgment. Then will come the consuming fire. Hebrews 12:19 tells us that "Our God is a consuming fire." There will be no destroying of the earth by nuclear warfare, nor by greenhouse gases or flood or any other man made causes. God is reserving the final judgment of this earth and mankind for His own judgment. Before that time can come, the events or prophecies that concern this earth will all have taken place, and that includes the "great apostasy", or falling away when the entire world will go whoring after Satan, the Antichrist.

This is why this 2 Peter chapter three is so important, because it gives us the wisdom of the ages. Do you understand the different ages, their sequences and characteristics? If you don't you will find yourself blushing when confronted by a worldly scholar. Christian, you don't have to blush when someone tells you that this earth is millions of years old, for it is. God's Word declares that this earth is millions of years old. There is no disagreement between science and our Father's Word as to the age of this earth. God created this earth to be inhabitable, and then this earth became a ruin, and God formed it all over again. This is what this is all about. Wisdom will come with understanding.
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II Peter 3:5 "For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:"

Most Christians today, and all of the worldly people today are willingly placing their selves in ignorance on this matter of the creation. Old as it is spoken of here is very ancient, goes far back before the time of Noah and Adam, and even before the creation of the animal world and the earth age as we know it now. Peter is telling you that in the far past, there was a first earth age. Not a different world or planet, but the same planet [earth] existing in a time frame prior to the earth as it exists today. The same world, but a different world age or time frame.

II Peter 3:6 "Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:"

That world age or cosmos that existed in that ancient time of the past (the age of the dinosaurs), and everything that was a part of it was destroyed completely. All animal life on it was completely done away with and all of us spirit beings were removed, including Satan. God destroyed it completely and it happened at Satan's overthrow attempt. Many people believe that that flood was the flood of Noah's day, however, the flood of Noah's day did not destroy this world age, life from before Noah's flood carried right over into the dispensation that followed one year later, after the waters had subsided.

Even in the first two verses of Genesis, God declared that there was a first earth age. Lets go there and study what the Word actually says there.

Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

There are two bodies mentioned in this verse; the heaven and the earth. It simply states a fact, and left the time factor out. This verse not only did not say when, but left it totally to our imagination, as to the eternal span of time when that creation took place. In Proverbs 8:22 we read of wisdom speaking through Solomon. Wisdom is God, for all wisdom is of God. "The Lord possessed me in the beginning of His ways, before the works of old." What works of old could this be? It is the old earth age, spoken of in Revelation 12.

Proverbs 8:23 "I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was."

This is stating that wisdom was with God, and He possessed me.

Proverbs 8:24 "When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water."

Before there was any need of an abyss, or pit, and the water to fill them, God's wisdom was there.

Proverbs 8:25 "Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:"

Before the earth even came into existence, with the high mountains and rolling hills, God's wisdom was there. God's wisdom played part in the creation of this earth, and all wisdom comes from God.

Proverbs 8:26 "While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the high part [beginning] of the dust of the world."

God was even there before that first speck of dust of the earth was formed.

Proverbs 8:27 "When he prepared the heavens and set a compass (circle) upon the face of the depth:"

Proverbs 8:28 "And when he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:"

Proverbs 8:29 "When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the fountains of the earth:"

In other words what this is saying is that there first was land, and oceans, and fields and lakes, and God set His commandment that they should be separated through the "compass" which He set: and we call it "gravity" today. This is the force that separates all water from dry land. When the waves hit the rocks of the shoreline, they resend back into the sea.

God allowed Job to be tested by both Satan and his fellow man, in the book of Job. However, after 37 chapters of man's nonsense, ramblings, and bad advise by those around Job, God spoke to Job.

Job 38:1, 2: "Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?"

Job had been tested to the point of losing his entire family, all his property, and he had been inflicted by sores and sickness, yet he did not curse God. He was in a poor frame of mind when God again came to Job. Job had been listening to the trash of men's doctrines for the first thirty seven verses of the book of Job, and now Job was ready to put those ramblings of other those men aside, and listen directly to God.

Job 38:3 "Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou Me."

God told Job to straighten up and be a man, and listen to what He is about to tell Job. Then God spells out in detail how He laid out the foundations of the earth and the heaven, and all matters concerning them. Then in the rest of Job 38 and 39 God reveals the wisdom that we read about in Proverbs 8.

God told Job how He put the universe all together. Our God is infinite in wisdom and power, yet His love for His children is so great that He allowed Himself to be killed as a man, on the cross at Calvary hill. It was this act of love that made it possible for mankind to except Him as their Savior and approach Him as His child.

So there is a complete separation between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2. Genesis 1:1 is the first creation of heaven and earth, while Genesis 1:2 is the destruction of that first earth age after the fall or rebellion of Satan.

Genesis 1:2 "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep."

Who is the Spirit of God? He is the Holy Spirit, and it is God's Spirit that moved upon the face of the waters. In the Hebrew text the translation of the word, "was" as used in this verse "...the earth was without form,..."; we see in the Massorah text it reads "(to become) without form...". The earth was not created a ruin but it became a ruin after the fall of Satan. It is the translators that changed the word from became, to was when they put it into English. In the original manuscripts this is the same Hebrew word as in Genesis 2:7 "...and man became a living soul."

The correct translation of the Hebrew from the Massoretic text for these words, "...without form..." is "tohu-va-bohu". So we see that the earth was not created "without form", but it became [tohu] without form and void". Lets go to Strong's Hebrew dictionary, reference number 1961 to verify the word "was", that we read in this verse. "Hayah, haw-yaw; a prime root, to exit; to become, or come to pass."

Now lets continue in the Strong's Hebrew dictionary to get the pure meaning for the word "void". # 2258, on page 36 tells us that we have to go to # 2254 for the prime root word for the meaning of the word "void". "Chabal, khaw-bal; to wind tightly as a rope, to bind, to pervert, destroy, to corrupt, spoil, travail." This corresponds with its other use in # 2255, which is "to ruin".

"Tohu" of the earth, then means that total destruction has come to pass upon the earth. The second "was" in the verse is in italics type because there is no verb "to be" in the Hebrew language. This is one of the problems in translating Hebrew into English, the verb "to be" is not distinguished from the verb, "to become".

At the end of the first earth age of Genesis 1:1 that age ceased to exist in its previous form. God created the earth to be inhabited, and then He destroyed it. There was an entire earth age that existed between the first two verses of Genesis. This first earth age is spoken of in Jeremiah, Proverbs, and Jude, as well as in II Peter. We will look into these Scriptures and try to understand the deeper meaning of our Father's Word.

If you don't understand that there was a first earth age, you will not understand why God would say in Malachi 1:3; "And I hated Esau...". God hated Esau even while he was in his mother's womb. It was in the first earth age that God hated Esau, because of what he was and did in that first earth age. It was what Esau's soul did in that age, that angered God so; and that anger passed on to the embryo of Esau when his soul entered into this earth age. This is also recorded in Romans 9:13.

Genesis 1:2 then verifies that our earth is far older then 6000 years old, when in fact it is probably millions, even billions, of years old. However, no matter how old this earth is, it is the only place in the universe that mankind, and the animals can exist in the flesh form that we are currently in and survive. We do not worship the creation, but we worship the creator, our Heavenly Father. God is in control of all of His creation, and He destroyed all forms of terrestrial (flesh and blood) life that lived on earth from that first earth age.

Isaiah 45:18 "For thus saith the Lord That created the heavens: God Himself formed the earth and made it; He hath established it, He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited: "I am the Lord; and there is none else." "

God is speaking and Isaiah is writing what God is saying down, and God is telling us that when He created the earth, it was not in vain. "Vain" as used here is the same Hebrew word that we saw in Genesis 1:2, which was given as "void", or ruin. God created this earth to be lived on, and to be inhabited. Genesis 1:1 told us that God created the earth to be inhabited. "Tohu", the "destruction", was not part of the creation plan, but came after the fall of Satan, when one third of all the souls followed Satan in the first earth age, in verse two.

So when we go back into II Peter 3:6, "Whereby the world that then was, being over-flowed with water, perished." We see that it was that earth age that perish, and all that was part of it. It became void at the rebellion of Satan when he drew one third of the souls (God's children) with him. This is what Revelation 12:1 - 4 is all about. It was in the first earth age that this took place, and what happened then is a type of what shall happen again in our generation.

Revelation 12:1 "And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:"

In this chapter of Revelation we now leave the last three and a half year period of this age and return all the way back to the world that was [the first earth age]. Some of the events that happened in that world that was will be a type of what we will see in our present earth age. This wonder that takes place is a great sign in the heavens. The "woman" here is not the church, for a church building has never delivered any child. This mother has nothing to do with the church. This woman is "Israel", the twelve sons of Jacob, or tribes as described in John 16:21. The same political and social order that was in existence at the end of the first earth age, will be ruling over the earth in the end of our current earth age.

Revelation 12:2 "And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered."

This child to be delivered is the Messiah, and the woman delivering the child is the symbol of "Israel", however in the physical sense, we call her Mary. It is Satan's sole purpose to destroy this child. This is the wife and the son of Almighty God, and he wants us to feel these events occurring. What happens to them affects Him, exactly as it would you or I in a similar case.

Revelation 12:3 "And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold, a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads."

This wonder, the "Great red dragon", is always Satan. Here again, it is all happening in heaven, prior to Genesis 1:2, in the first earth age. Just like it will be at the end of this earth age, Satan had seven dominions, with ten agencies of power and authority. Satan had complete universal control over that prior earth kingdom; and he also had total political control. This is pointed out in detail in Revelation 13, and it is a copy of what is happening in this earth age with the United Nations, and it's ten units of power that is taking control over all the dominions on the face of the earth.

Revelation 12:4 "And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born."

The "stars of heaven" are the "sons of God". This old dragon caused one third of all of God's creation to follow him. One third of God's children are all those people that lived then in their celestial, "soul bodies", which is also called angelic souls. So what this is saying here, is that when Satan fell he drew one third of God's children to him. He caused them to fall, and they worshipped Satan as God, and believed him to be God. That is his desire also for this age; to cause you and I, the children of God, to worship him.

When we read that "all living came from mother Eve", it means that "Messiah" came from, or through the womb of Eve. He came as the offspring of Eve, and her offspring Mary. And it is through the Messiah, Jesus Christ that eternal life to all mankind is offered. For you and me and all mankind to receive eternal life, each soul must pass from death to life through the blood of Jesus Christ. So we see this refers to spiritual life, and not physical life.

It was in that first earth age at the fall of Satan, when the third of the angels (we/us)  followed him that many took a stand on the side of God. This is why Ephesians 1:4 draws our attention to those that did make a stand then.

Ephesians 1:4 "According as He hath chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love:"

What does it mean to be chosen?

It means that there are certain people that God chose in the first earth age to do a task for Him in this flesh earth age. This is not reincarnation, for it is appointed for each of us to go through this earth age, the flesh earth age, once and only once. Hebrews 9:27 tells us; "...It is appointed unto men once to die [in the flesh], but after this the judgment." This appointing and choosing took place before the foundation of this earth age; before the age when God started placing our souls in these flesh and blood bodies, that we are living in now in this second earth age or cosmos.

"Without blame" refers to the fact that God intercedes in certain peoples lives. Certain people have free will, while certain others are of God's election, however, God doesn't play favorites. Christ died for the sins of all those who will repent; the chosen and the free will. Every soul must repent for the sins that they commit, and love the Lord Jesus Christ to have the hope of His glory.

"Before the foundation of the world", "world" in the Greek is "cosmos", meaning world or earth age. "Foundation" in the Greek is the verb for "the overthrow". This again refers to something that happened in that first earth age, before the overthrow by Satan, and the third of the angels/we/us followed him.

Remember back in Romans 8:27; "And he that searcheth the heart knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God." These saints are the set-aside ones, or the ones chosen. God has a overall plan, and the purpose in that plan is to bring those children that fell back to Himself.

Ephesians 1:5 "Having pre destinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,"

"Predestined" means "from a time prior", or "required to do a certain thing" in the Greek. You have a choice of loving God, or loving Satan. God will not interfere with your free will choice to chose Him or Satan. However, that person that proved himself or herself during the overthrow of Satan, were "justified", or judged and earned the right to be called "saints" from that first earth age. These again are those which are called "God's elect".

Each soul comes from God and enters an embryo at conception. This is why Jeremiah was called a "chosen one". God said to Jeremiah in Jeremiah 1:5; "Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou comest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet of nations."

"Sanctified" thee is to "set aside" Jeremiah for a purpose. Jeremiah's sins still had to be repented of, and the price of the blood of Christ had to pay for them, even though Christ had not been born in the flesh yet.. To be predestined is to be fore chosen. Just because you are predestined, God can still make life very miserable to those out of His will so they will repent and get back into His will for them. God has a perfect will and He is always fair.

II Peter 3:7 "But the heavens and the earth which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men."

This is in reference to the second heaven and earth age which we are living in now. This earth age will not be destroyed until God's time of judgment on the ungodly men of this earth has come to a close. That time of perdition [destruction] is after the Millennium age, and after the Great white throne judgment. Then will come the consuming fire. Hebrews 12:19 tells us that "Our God is a consuming fire." There will be no destroying of the earth by nuclear warfare, nor by greenhouse gases or flood or any other man made causes. God is reserving the final judgment of this earth and mankind for His own judgment. Before that time can come, the events or prophecies that concern this earth will all have taken place, and that includes the "great apostasy", or falling away when the entire world will go whoring after Satan, the Antichrist.

John referred to the over throw of the pre-Adamic world  Rev.13:8, 17:8.
Revelation 13:8 "And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."

Revelation 17:8 "The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is [shall come]."

It is clear that both testaments give proof of a pre-Adamic world. The actual findings of science regarding pre-historic animals and men, the age of the earth, it's rock formation, and other facts can be recognized only if we believe the Bible's revelation of a pre-Adamic social system. There are many questions which cannot be answered apart from the belief in a pre-Adamic age. How did Lucifer become the devil and the prince of demons? When did he weaken the nations, ascend into heaven to exalt his throne above the stars and when did he fall from heaven as in Isa.14:12? How did demons originate, for what purpose, and when? What caused the calamity of Gen.1:2; Jer.4:23-26;Ps.104:6-9; 2 Pet.  3:5-6? Why was hell prepared for the devil and his angels as stated in Mt.25:41, and why was it located beneath the earth (Mt.12:40; Eph.4:7-12? Why was Adam told to replenish the earth?
 
These and other questions are unanswered apart from a belief in the pre-Adamic world.


  So, after reading the above, who do you believe were these men who lived here on earth before the flood and overthrow of Genesis 1:2, in the pre-Adamic first earth age?

Well, I tell you, it's pretty obvious to me that if all the children of God  shouted for Joy as Job 38:7 tells us we did when God laid the foundations of the earth it is a sure thing that Job, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Moses, David, Adam and Eve along with you and me and all our ancestors and descendants and every other person who ever lived or will live here on earth in an animal body, were present when the earth was created in the beginning, just like Job was, before the katabole (foundation of the world). We were living here (all of us who lived) in celestial bodies, during the first earth age.
Job 38:4 "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding."
Job 38:7 "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for Joy?"

John Rhine's Summary continued::
Rev. 22:8 And I John saw these things, and heard them.  And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. We can only imagine the overwhelming impact it must have had on John when the reality of being taken to heaven, to the very throne of God, and witnessing the awesome events described in this book, finally "hit home". And so he fell down to worship before the feet of the angel.   Rev. 22:9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. Did you catch what the angel said? This is a very revealing verse. The angel makes it perfectly clear that he is "one of us" who has lived in the flesh, from among our brethren the prophets.

And it is also obvious to me that if the apostle John, who wrote in Revelations 22:8-9, was a brother of the angel in Revelation 22:8-9, and he was (God said it, and you just read it!), then you and I were/are also angels and were part of the host of heaven waiting our turn to be born to a flesh and blood women to experience life and the permanency of death of our animal body as a flesh and blood human being in this animal type body.

Than since we are surely brothern of the apostle John, that means we are also brothers of that angel in Revelation 22:9 and we are/were, after the first earth age,  part of the host of heaven waiting our turn to be born to a flesh and blood women in order to experience life and the permanency of death as a flesh and blood human being in our own animal type body. 

Yes,  God pulled us off this earth before He destroyed it in anger because of Lucifer's sin. taking us all back to heaven to be with Him, while awaiting our turn to be born to a women in a flesh and blood body in this second earth age, as per His plan to try to salvage our souls.

I guess we've answered the puzzle over why scientists can't find human bones to back up their theory of evolution.

There are no human bones,
we had celestial bodies in the first earth age, not animal terrestrial
 bodies.

So much for their theory of evolution!
Will scientists never learn?


SOME EXAMPLES OF OUR LIVES BEFORE BEING BORN IN THE FLASH
Live Link to->>What am I now doing in this animal body?
#4143    2 groups of humans:  The predestination group and The free choice group.
#2547But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first.
#4094 We/Us (1st earth age) Ye (this present earth age)
#1029     No "Altar Call" for Paul
#1026    "God's Elect"
#1792 "What predestination means"
#5161Has God chosen you in Him before the foundation of the world, that you should be holy and without blame before Him in love:
#1517    He who speaks his own words is on an ego trip and you'll need a pooper scooper if you listen to them.
#4084    Some of us were chosen in the first earth age to be followers of Christ in this earth age.
#4116     Many predestined according to God's will.
#5143   This means we will not all sleep, i.e. die, after the normal manner of men.